The Celebreality Interview – 20 Pack



Before she dismissed him, New York called 20 Pack many things: freeloading, a purse-holder, a girlfriend. But her harsh words didn’t get him down, as our interview attests. And in fact, he has some choice words of his own (New York has “ranch breath” and Tailor Made is “smegma,” for just two examples). Below, 20 Pack talks about his no-kiss policy, those pesky gay rumors and what he does to maintain those killer abs.

How was your experience on the show?

My experience was eventful. I would say that wasn’t everything that it was cracked up to be.

You seemed to be an active member in the house, like when you called and led the meeting.

Yeah, I feel like I was edited out a lot. I guess there were other people that caused more drama, so they just kinda made me a minor character. I thought I was definitely more involved with a lot of the stuff in the house.

Did you get along with most of the guys?

I made some really good friends and I would say I got along with five of them really well: Punk, Buddha, Cheezy, Pretty, and the Entertainer.

Speaking of Pretty, were you surprised when everybody started talking about whether or not he was gay?

No, being in the business I’m in, like in the nightclubs and at the hair salon, I can spot one from a mile away. Tailor Made was coming around saying, “We need to call him out on it.” But if I’m not 100 percent sure, I never call anybody out. I think that is the worst thing you could ever do.

Was there anybody else that you got gay vibes from in the house?

Oh I knew right off the bat…I can’t say if he was fully gay but I’d say he was definitely bi: Unsure.

Speaking of your occupation, you MC male strip shows right?

Night clubs and male strip shows yes.

That must be interesting.

It’s quite eventful.

As an MC, so you’re not technically a stripper, right?

I was for a long time. But every night at the club is like a different night, you know? I’m the type of person that sees something and always wants to do better than that other person. Almost like a one-upper. So I saw somebody do it one night and I was like, “Oh I could do that!” Regardless of my size or whatever.

In the beginning of the episode you said you sort of had a problem showing affection. Do you you ever kiss on the first date?

No, because working in what I work in, I mean I’ve been with…I stopped counting [the number of women] years ago. But I’ve never talked to somebody after hooking up with them, or sleeping with them the first night I ever met them. So it’s almost like a no-win situation. I just lose all respect. And when you’re in a house with New York and knowing that she kissed all of those guys…the worst thing was Flavor Flav. That was running through my head. And I was there strictly on the fact that I was attracted to this woman’s personality.

Not her appearance?

I don’t normally go for girls that look like New York, but I did love her outgoing-ness. But once I was in the house, I lost respect for a lot of things, like how she stuck by Tailor Made. And I wasn’t going to lose respect for myself and change my views. I wrote something the other night on MySpace, and I got a lot of responses from it. It goes: “What is a girlfriend? To me, it’s a person who is your best friend, the person you stand by, the person you make love to and most important somebody your always there for. New York regardless of how you did me, I’ll always be there for you. I was going in there to make a best friend that I had the potential in the future to stand by, sleep with, etc.”

It’s one thing to sleep with somebody, but it’s another thing to make out with somebody. I don’t think a lot of people place the weight on kissing that you do.

Well, it didn’t help matters that the date we went on was so horrible. It was the worst date ever. I had mud in my ass crack, I had mud in my ears, I was still venting about Mr. Wise taking up all the time in the ring. And then to top it off, New York just ate dinner and you see how much ranch dressing she has with her meals. Like, you could smell it. No joke and I’m not being a dirtbag or mean to say that but, you know, that’s a turn-off for me. I was forced to go on the date and be put in a situation I didn’t want to be in: being violated by mud and having to kiss ranch breath.

It did a lot for your character when you accepted Wise’s apology for hogging the ring time. It was weird seeing someone on this episode act…civilly.

It’s so funny to see people’s views on me change throughout the season. My pictures were released and everyone was like, “Oh who does his eyebrows?” Meanwhile I’ve never touched them in my entire life. “Oh look at this, he is for sure gay. Blah blah blah.” And then people like they see you and they’re like, OK he has a different image. I was cast as like the pretty boy but I was the realest one in that house.

You were the anti-Tailor Made. Is he really so douchey in person?

Oh you have no idea. He’s conniving. You saw in this week’s episode when he tries to make us turn on Pretty. What you don’t see is that stuff happens 10 times more than they actually show. To me, that is not ingenious, that is just low. Like, I can’t even describe that. That is like smegma. You know that stuff that accumulates on the side of your mouth? Yeah that’s what he is, that white foam.

You mentioned before when the cast pictures went up people were talking about you possibly being gay. I assume that because you’re pretty and ripped, that’s not the first time you’ve heard that.

Yes, I’ve come across this before. I’m so open personality-wise, and that’s actually something that breaks a barrier between people. Especially working in a club like hosting a male revue. I can’t go up there and be alpha male, d*** swinging left to the right. You have to go up there and kinda bring out that [softer] side of you so they automatically trust you. That is the ultimate ice breaker and plus I’m extremely social. Like, I can talk to anybody in any situation cause god knows I was the least hip-hop out of anybody in that house. If you see me under normal circumstances I have a faux Mohawk and I’m throwing up the rock sign 24/7.

But for the record, you are a hundred percent straight?

Oh yeah. Yeah.

When you left New York sort of said you’d still be friends do you think that’s bulls***?

Well, I haven’t been able to get in contact with her but…

But you would?

Oh, of course. She’s somebody I would love to hang out with.

In her interview, she sort of made fun of you and called you a purse-holder, what was your response to that?

Well I think she coulda let me go a lot worse. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect everyone’s opinion and judgment. It’s not something I’m gonna get bent outta shape about.

You named yourself after your abs, so I wonder what your fitness regimen is like.

Um, Burger King and McDonalds.

And how often do you go to the gym?

I dunno. Three times a week maybe.

So it’s just good genes?

Yeah, good genetics.

If you had the chance to go back and do the show again, would you?

No. Honestly, I wouldn’t. If it was like Jes from Rock of Love, yes. But if it was I Love New York, I wouldn’t go back.

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  1. melanie says:

    N I C O i love you 2death.. i am so glad newyorks drity !$* let you go because she is !%`@ ing ugly.. now you know you could do way better than her.. well i cant wait till next week.. ur bday bash… i went last night and you were !%`@ ing awesome.. i love it when you jump up onto the beams at the top.. you are the !%`@ ing bestttttttt

  2. Elle is my favorite Skelanimal says:

    New York is so damn stupid. You seemed like the sweetest guy in the house (your hotness is a bonus) but I guess she just wanted drama. Good luck!

  3. Jolena911 says:

    He gay.
    I done hate.
    But he gay.

  4. nicole says:

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  6. sarina says:

    OMG<======= i love 20 pack i mean like ya he a sexy _)+_`$(**`+()#$ boo <3 i dont care how old he is i jus love him 4 like eva ya boiii =]]

  7. Heather says:

    OMG! 20 pack is freakin hot.. mmmm… boy if i was her i would of totally chosen you… by tha way is mexican?

  8. Deanna J says:

    Well i think 20 pack is hot.. but even though you might wear make up does not make you gay i mean why cant guys wear it and i think New York is just mean and trashy but i guess if you love her it makes no right for me to tell you who to date:) its just my opinion:)

  9. Deanna J says:

    Email me at ok ur hot:) i dont care how old ur i would so date u laters hoty:)

  10. seize the joy says:

    oh boy i bet you are the only one who still doesnt know it… you are freakin hot and sexy but you are one of the adam and steve family. take it from me. peace!

  11. ava says:

    20 pack is go gay….u guys cant tell?? he is super gay on i love money 2…he is scared to come out the closet!

  12. says:

    I would love to take 20 pack out and just converse or anything he’s truly amazing

  13. taylorl says:

    wat uo im taylor i want to no if you really liked him/her

  14. Taylor says:

    Ayy! wats up 20 pack??
    damn u iz fine foreal mann~
    i’d do you! lolz.
    you are like the hottest guy on that show.
    ur mainly the reason i watch this show. hehe
    peace !~

  15. Taylor says:

    btw imma girl!~
    a hot one ;)

  16. MARY says:


  17. tynasia says:

    20 pack is so sexy and i love him he is not gay or bi he is straight

  18. Shari says:

    Soo hot, and still seems like a genuine person. What’s 20 pack real name? I like how he keeps his cool.. And I agree with the no kissing rule, esp with a person like NY.

  19. SoKclazzy says:

    20pack i lov3 yu so much n i understand y yu did wht yu did cuz if it wuz m3 i wudnt kizz h3r azz 3ith3r n juz 2 l3t yu kno i lov3 m3n lyk3 yu

  20. Fat monkeys says:

    Are you gay?

  21. Evelin says:

    He aint gay he cute really cute i love him realest person in the world

  22. frank says:

    so ur not gay? i mean i am not bein mean but like ur profession dosent seem like someone straight being in New York u dont rlly c alot of straight ppl in your profession but did u ever have gay thoughts or any kind of curiousity cuzz if u didnt thats strange and like ok never heard of that before?

  23. hoty_123 says:

    heyyy i have always wanted 2 talk to u so whats up

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