Examining Rehab 2 With Dr. Drew – Episode 5

Our scene-specific blog commentary on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew continues. Below, the doctor talks about the main points of the episode, among them: Jeff’s “recovery,” Amber’s anger and the intense meeting with Steven’s mom.

So, this episode starts where the last left off. After calling 911, Jeff agrees to stay in rehab.

The cops, thank God, see the craziness and understand that this is not someone that should go home. They supported me when I said, “Look, we can’t safely advise you to go home.” They could see he wasn’t in his right mind. It’s not a normal impulse to call 911 when people are trying to help you.

Jeff says he doesn’t want to play “the rehab game anymore.” I thought that was telling.

He does treat it like a game. I do have a crazy, deep affection for him. We get more conflicted as the season goes along, but we always come back around to each other. That said, I’m never sure when Jeff is acting. I’m never sure when he’s amplifying his emotions. I’m never clear what’s real with Jeff, and I’m also not clear if Jeff is clear about that. It almost doesn’t matter. It’s all kind of the same. In the end, I’m not clear what’s motivating him. Why is he here? Is it all B.S. to him? Is it the real deal? Is it possibly the real deal? Might we get some real out of him? Who knows? The point is that when he calls it a “game,” I’m not sure how different that his from him saying, “Hey, I’m really serious this time.” It’s so confusing. What I know for sure is that I’m willing to get in there and struggle with him.

What did you make of his sudden improvement? He says, “God touched me in my sleep.”

Doesn’t it show how much there’s an emotional overlay to his pain? At the very least, can’t we learn that, especially those who are prescribing his painkillers? There’s a heavy overlay of something here that is not just about the pain.

Amber is extremely irritable this episode. Can you compare her anger to other post-opiate users?

Opiate users get more desperate than angry. The thing with Amber is she has a lot of rage and anger in her already. She’s particularly angry that she has to have feelings. She’s always looking for fairness: “Why do they get that, and I don’t?” is always her refrain. And that’s her manipulating, and I get that. But part of my job is to get her to have that anger. Jeff is an expert in laying into me, but Amber is the opposite. She doesn’t understand how to do that yet, so I’m just trying to get her to let those feelings out while understanding that she won’t hurt us, she won’t destroy us, we’ll be OK.

Art therapy is used in this episode. Is that a method you frequently employ?

No. It’s too costly. We have to watch our resources while treating patients. We used to, back in the day, when you’d do whatever you could with patients and just throw them whatever you could get your hands on. Art therapy is very useful when there’s a good art therapist on board.

This seemed really evocative for everyone.

Understand that that’s a little scary for us. If it gets too evocative, we’ve got trouble on our hands because people want to go do drugs then. That’s the risk of evocative therapy. But this was just right for our group.

It did lead to a confrontation between Gary and Jeff over the front seat of the van.

It’s like children, right?

You selected Rodney to mediate. Why him?

It just occurred to me in the moment. I didn’t see any real resolution to the bickering. Gary was trying as best he could, and they wouldn’t grant him that. Everyone had ganged up on him. I figured that I needed a physical presence, a show of force. And I thought Rodney is always talking about wanting to be of service and that he feels so good when people give him responsibilities and it just occurred to me in that moment. I figured it would be a chance for Rodney to serve the group and it would get these guys to shut up when this giant man tells them to. They’re not gonna listen to me. And it just stopped. There was nothing to process. Rodney got them just to shut up. I considered it a stroke of genius, I must tell you. It kept the peace from then on.

There’s also a screening of The Buddy Holly Story that night. What was the thought process behind that?

Two things, really. The first is that the group was looking for something to do together at night, something social and unifying. The second is that I’d been working so hard to get them to see Gary as who he is as a human being and not just as a guy whose behaviors cause distress. He is a pretty neat guy, and he’s talented of historical proportions. You know, a lot of these drug addicts are so tied up in their own stuff, they don’t even know about other people’s lives, let alone care. If you remember, early on, they didn’t even know who Rodney King was. That speaks volumes about that kind of thinking. So being made to watch a part of Gary’s got them to look at their own narcissism. I was kind of moved by it, myself. And I was also moved by Gary. He has this very deep insecurity. Even though he’s in everyone’s face as the center of the storm, he really believes that no one cares about him in any genuine way. When we told him that we were going to show the movie, he started crying, saying, “These people don’t want to know about me. They don’t care.” He expects rejection.

The final major point centers on Steven’s mom. I know that you’re way too diplomatic to back me up here, but she seems terrible.

I’m sorry if she comes off that way. Hearing her side of the story for me really made me question what Steven was experiencing. The whole story about him being thrown out at age 11, it turns out he wanted to go stay with his grandparents. She goes, “Honey, you insisted on leaving. You demanded to get out of here. You told us we were horrible people and that you wouldn’t stay with us and you liked your grandparents better and we said, ‘OK.’ What are you talking about?” The whole business about him being arrested in school is distorted and fabricated and that fits in with who Steven is: a sick 11-year-old, who was sick already at that point and needed care and didn’t get any. That’s where the parents really fell down: they didn’t treat this kid who needed help. The addiction and resentment and years that have gone by have distorted the memories. This person who seemed so horrible – and I’m not saying she’s great, don’t get me wrong here – maybe isn’t as horrible as we thought. The reality is that it doesn’t diminish Steven’s experience. My job is to stay with Steven’s experience. So while the reality might have been different, I still have to validate Steven’s experience and help him process it as he understood it. I’d like to be able to help him heal with his mom, and hopefully someday that can happen. The biggest problem for us is that he carries resentment and resentments cause relapse. Resentments make people use.

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This entry was posted on Thursday, November 20th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

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148 responses to to Examining Rehab 2 With Dr. Drew – Episode 5

Reeformdagain November 21, 2008 at 10:05 pm

I’ve been a fan of Dr,Pinski ever since love line,but this show is a farce and probably lead all these people to use again.I also think it was shamefull to throw Mr. King under the bus like you did,(hall-monitor?),who probably was the only person of the whole group who needed your help the most..Please stop playing with people’s lives for the sake of entertainment,Sobriety is not a game. Clean and sober off and on for 40 yrs my name is Brian and I’m an addict .

Celeb Rehab is Amazing!! November 21, 2008 at 10:09 pm

http://www.famousvh1friends.com/

The url for those of you that would like to contact Dr drew or Gary.

Be nice

juni November 21, 2008 at 11:17 pm

I love most of the people on the show but I think Jeff Conaway should leave. This has been his second chance. He was a drama queen on the first Celeb Rehab too. He needs to be center of attention. Also, I thought it was mean the way Rod Stewart’s son continuously picked on Gary. But I am glad the group could see Gary’s talent in action.

Paradise City November 21, 2008 at 11:34 pm

I gotta say, I have always loved Steven Alder in GNR. From the first time I saw the Jungle video, I thought he was amazing. I am an avid GNR lover from the past up to Axl’s new GNR. I have immense feelings for Steven and I wish him nothing but love and hope that he overcomes this demon that has been inside him for years and years. When I heard he was kicked out of GNR years ago that was a real blow to me being such a fan. I know he’s been hurt in his life which is the main cause of his addiction. I just hope that Dr. Drew can break through. Steven has survived this much so far and it’s for a reason and that reason is so that he can go on with the rest of his life drug free and doing what he loves to do.

Steven I wish you all the best!

Tara November 21, 2008 at 11:56 pm

Hi Dr. Drew my name is Tara I am a Mom of 9 children and in a bad marriage with no way out I have been on pain medicine for 13 yrs I would like to know if you could email me at Mommyof872@yahoo.com and maybe give me some advice there is more to it but I dont want to talk this way I have always watched you and feel comfortable talking to you so PLEASE EMAIL me back.
Thank You
Tara

Robbi November 22, 2008 at 12:34 am

Wow what an amazing show. It is easy to see why Dr. Drew is the Dr. The movie night was awsome. I was glad to see everyone rallying toether. Everyone was able to see a different side of Gary. It felt like light bulb moment for me. Gary is trying find his way back to a normal life. I really like the meeting with Steven & his mother. I know that it is better to have forgiveness & work towards a better relationship,but when is it ok to say maybe we just can’t. I don’t think that it’s possible for Stevens Mother to ask for forgivenes when she doesn’t feel like she has done anything wrong.I know that through the years memories get distorted,but the pain of being rejected (if only slight by ones parents) can stay with you forever. They say that forgiveness is about you & not them . Easy to say hard to do. Not to diminish last season ,but I feel the show has grown in positive way. I have to admit that Jeff is starting annoy me. I woulddn’t want to have the challenge of dealing with him every day. As a Dr. – Dr Drew must have an enormous burden to bear. Let him go & risk the chance he make good on his promise to kill himself or ask him to stay put up with it. I aboslutely have to comment on Rodney King. My memories of him are all from little snipits of televison news. I remember thinking at the time all of this for one black man who got rough up by the cops. I have grown a lot since then. All I can say to Rodney is I was wrong forgive me for my ignorance. I hope that everyone finds sobriety & the peace that brings…

that girl November 22, 2008 at 12:40 am

Hey Im not sure if you guys read this but I am really impressed with the group this season!

Steven Adler I am praying for you, I really hope you can get through this. The rest of you are ALL awesome and I really am praying that you can kick this… Jeff, please leave that devil of a girlfriend behind. Busey- you are still my fiance’s hero.

Dr. Drew, I held great esteem for you even back in the loveline days. I am really pleased with your use of the celebrity platform to get the word out on what addiction really does to people.

jacnyc1234 November 22, 2008 at 1:37 am

Drew – i almost forgot – u rock duded- u look like u really care. u touch more people than u think. please keep this show going for the rest of us that can;t afford u :)

liz November 22, 2008 at 8:35 am

i can relate to you steve.
i was abandoned by my mom at 13.
i have a few years clean and sober now and am very aware of that issue.

working the steps is the best thing that has ever happened to me.

i really can relate to you….hugs

tullyboy November 22, 2008 at 9:44 am

jeff…you touched me so much when you hung your head and, said that you missed your mom. i was 10 when my dad commited suicide. im 50 now. and, in recovery myself from opiats. i know how hard it is believe me. im pulling for you jeff! your in my prayers. the same with all of you there…hang in there…”one day at a time” love, dave in tully new york

Oona Montgomery November 22, 2008 at 10:15 am

This is a message for Amber. For starters you are an incredibly stunning woman; Pam Anderson has NOTHING on you. Real beauty comes from within and you eminate it. I see that you in your quest for love, after your father died, you latched on to your Mom to prevent her from leaving also and in doing so she has pulled you down the drain with her. We want our parents love so bad we will do anything to keep it even if it is so damaging we end up losing ourselves completely. No matter what anyone says WE ARE A PRODUCT OF OUR PARENTS, if we know nothing else but chaos and dysfunction how can we be expected to change. Everything we learn we learn at a young age, how we relate to the world, what our boundaries are and what love is, and this we learn from our parents. It is your choice now to look for another life, because the one you are living now is not working. There are tools out there to learn, all people are not bad, you ARE derserving of love and life can be good. You may not have the tools to see that life can be good, but it can be even if we are damaged goods. Forget the past, we are only human and look to your new life with open eyes and a full tool box. Life is hard for everyone, even people w/o an addiction, so push through it and be strong. I know you are I see it in your beautiful eyes.

Debra November 22, 2008 at 11:03 am

Hi Dr. Drew * I Love the Show * I am detoxing along w/ everyone As it is very inspiring to watch others handle addiction or lack there of….but here in lies the Rub, my husband lost his job in sept & our cable is about to be shut off for lack of payment & I really want to see the last few episodes…is there any way VH1 will sell a DvD box set of season 2? I sure hope so as we live on a farm in the middle of nowhere & its really hard to find anyone with TiVo to record them for us….Thanks in advance..Did I say I Love this Show???? Keep up the Good Work, Y’All are Terriffic….Staff & Patients alike….Praying hard for a complete recovery for all who Really Want it…..God Bless You All.
Namaste.
Deb in BFE
:o)

Lori November 22, 2008 at 12:43 pm

I am wrtiing to Steven. Dr. Drew is right about finding away for you to forgive your mom. I am not saying tell her you forgive her but ask your higher power to help you find a way in your heart to forgive her and then let it go. there is a prayer in the AA book that helped me when i was hurt and angry with someone in my life. It says…Dear God please give say your mom eveything i want for myself but more. say it evey night and pretty soon your anger will not rule you. It is very hard getting sober & is very painful. I had to look inside myself to admit my part in what i did & how i hurt others. after i did that i felt all the resentments i had were gone. I became a better person. before eveything that happened in my life i blamed others. find a way to forgive in your heart and it will set you free. I think you are an amazing man, you have Dr. Drew to guide you, a women by your side,
i am praying for you Steven. PS. i dont like your mom much. She is the one that has to live with the choices she made. you dont have to support her. get your money back. move on, life is a beautiful thing. i have been sober 3 years and i live just for one day this day. sometimes moment to moment.

jutzp November 22, 2008 at 12:46 pm

Dr. Drew,
I love your show. I’m an alcoholic, I dont go to many meetings. When I do, I feel awful about myself which makes me want to drink. I have no self esteem, self worth. Your show makes me feel like I can still hang in there. I could make comments on all the people this year, but Rodney seems to be falling between the cracks. I think there is more in him then just the beatings. He seems so lonely. I guess I connect with him for some reason. I pray for him and hope he can be well.

Lava November 22, 2008 at 1:12 pm

This is a message for Jeff…….I was so happy to see the change in you by the end of the last episode. I’ve been very concerned for your well being, and thank God Dr. Drew has taken a special interest in you…..God bless him. You are still so handsome, and I’d hate to see you allow this demon to win. I have degenerative disk disease in my lower spine, and while I’m not comparing it to what you suffer, I have always found that giving in to the pain and walking hunched over, makes it hurt even more. Work hard on standing up as straight as you can……I truly believe it will help…..I saw the therapist stand you against the door and you were pretty darn straight…….you can do it!! Please, please, stay on your current path to recovery……. I’d love to see you acting again. Take care……

Sherry November 22, 2008 at 1:12 pm

the point of no return
is when i can feel
i leave here believing
swallowed by signs
have no fear
coming back to life

lynda secrest November 22, 2008 at 3:14 pm

my husban is in drug court. i go to his meeting with him to try to understand addication. i used along with him, when he came out of jail i stopped, so its hard for me to undertand why someone can’t just stop using drugs. i know now from watching your show that is all has to do with hiding feeling from childhood. it seems to me that we see things as a child and hold on to it for life, but the grown ups dont have the same memory of it. i love this show. keep it going, it really touches lives that you don’t even know about. like my husband bill. i wish we had a “dr.drew” in our little town.

fred November 22, 2008 at 6:50 pm

Jeff: My heart goes out for you, when I see you it’s like looking in a mirror. I’ve had 7 back operations & 2 total knees. Very few people know what it’s like to have severe nerve damage in spine along with OA in your spine & joints. I would not be here if it wasn’t for oxycodone for pain, baclofen for leg cramps. For me steriod injetions really help. For help when things get real bad I will take methylpred 4mg qty.21. When you said on the show I don’t know if you can live without opids, I know what you really mean. If you have this burning pain through your whole body like I do, the Dr’s & people you are around have no clue of what hell you live in every day. I would love to get off the med’s like you thats why I had the operations and fusion. The more the Dr’s did the worst the pain gets. I lost faith in my Dr’s. I love the show, I hope I can learn what to do from you.

Nancyb November 22, 2008 at 7:41 pm

I think it is wonderful they way you are helping celebrities get free from drugs, alcohol and self. Hollywood is a pretend life. And you tend to do things that would make you popular. In my experience with drugs I was escaping things I did that I really didn’t want to do. In reality my peer my best friend and I was 16yrs old and I first smoked marijuana when my girlfriend wanted to seem special in front of these boys. So they was passing the joint and when it came to me I didn’t want to but my friend whispered in my ear go ahead and smoke it don’t embarrass me. So I took a hit but I didn’t inhale it. And then I met this man at 17 1/2 yrs old and he was 26yrs old and I was a virgin and we had been seeing each other for about three weeks and he said I needed to open up so he lit up a joint and I smoked it and from there it was on. I didn’t like to have sex so I would smoke pcp mixed with reefer and drink brass monkey, mad dog 2020, brandy whatever to get high and that went on from 1978 until I got pregnant in 1986 by then I was selling my blood to get $13.00 to buy drugs. I did a lot of reckless things. I slept with my cousin because we was so high and he forced me. I had been physically and emotionally abused when I was a child by my mother. My parents smoked cigarettes and drink beer back then. I had to learn to forgive people for what they did in my life and most of all I had to forgive myself for what I did. I had to except responsibility. I mean there was a point I pretended to be a girl name Charmainia just because me and one of my friends did not want some guys to know our real name. You know taking on another personality is wicked to your soul. I see the young lady beyonce being a personality sasha and they see it that she is selling music but later this will ruin her. You have to know hollywood is about sex, drugs and rock and roll and it is destroying peoples lives. It is something wrong when your parents are promoting you to use your body to get financial gain. These people are prostituting their children. And they start out so young and then if they live to go from 12yrs old to 25yrs they have so many issue’s that boggs the mind and what can the do. You get tired of doing what people say and you look for other means to satisfy. You seem to run out of choices. So, I am so glad that the celebrities have you Dr. Drew they need you but know this God is the only true way for them to gain true happiness

frosty413 November 22, 2008 at 7:52 pm

Dr. Drew;
Curious about your take on Suboxone. The medicine saved my life.
thank-you
PS: 3 years ago, your voice stood out as you appeared on television.
you helped motivate me.

Dee November 22, 2008 at 7:52 pm

I so identify with Steven. For years I had such resentment towards my mother and the things that I perceived that she did to me. My perceptions kept me locked in a box of abuse and confusion until I came to understand that she did what she knew best to do. It took me years to understand that. We all need to understand that our parents are not always the characters we turn them into, they are just who they are. The sooner Steven realizes this the sooner he will be able to let the resentment go. (Steven I wasnt raised by my mother either, I was given to her cousing at 6 weeks of age after I came out of the incubator. Then at the age of 11 when her cousing went into the hospital after a stroke I had to deal with the fact that the woman I thought was just a relative was actually my mother. For years we battled because I couldnt process the fact that she was my mother and didnt raise me while at the same time she was raising my older brother in the same house. So I know your pain.) Today I have been clean, sober and resentment free for 18 yrs and I love it. I have a fantastic relationship with my mother. Because of this today I am currently studying to be a drug and alcohol abuse counselor so that I can reach out to others. STEVEN PLEASE FOR YOUR OWN SANITY AND SOBRIETY LET THE RESENTMENT GO…EMBRACE YOUR MOTHER AS THE WOMAN SHE IS TODAY AND BE THE MAN YOU WANT TO BE TOMORROW.

Diane November 22, 2008 at 8:50 pm

Gary, I understand the confusion you’re going through as a result of your near death experience. The brain damage you suffered in your accident is compounded by the problem of trying to fit yourself back in your body and back into the physical world after having an out of body experience and meeting with angels. With all due respect to Dr. Drew, no one except another NDEr can relate to that aspect. You need to talk to other NDErs to help you realize you’re not alone. You can contact me through my web site, http://www.BeyondtheVeil.net or go to the Int’l (^(%#%^@)@~@$~# n. of Near Death Studies web site http://www.iands.org and ask for support. There is also an NDE support group in LA and IANDS can put you in touch. You came back for a reason, Gary, and your addictions are keeping you from your spiritual path. Let go and let God.
Peace & Joy!
Diane

Florence November 22, 2008 at 10:26 pm

Thank you, again, Dr. Drew Pinsky for bringing the profession (I’m an LMFT) I love to the mainstream in as true aform as one can get in the media. The power of group, the catharsis of art, and the unconditional regard of therapist to client is well represented. And, I certainly hope that Steven Adler can overcome his fears as I truly see him operating from that 11 y/o perspective.

Kay November 22, 2008 at 10:52 pm

Jeff, I understand the pain you are going through with your back. I too had back surgery and it is by far the most painful surgery I have had. Believe me when I say this. the pain in your back will decrease with time. My PT has me going muscle stetches to strengthen the muscles in my back. I had back surgery back in 2004 and still have some aches and pains, but the exreme pain will start to disappear. Jeff stay strong I am on your side and wish you have a fill recovery.

kristen November 22, 2008 at 11:08 pm

gary needs to go. I have been through treatment twice and it is nothing like on TV. Every person has issues, but they are not overiszed like on TV. Life is day to day, and that is the hardest to do. Even aeith AA meetings and such. Life is hard,

Laura T November 23, 2008 at 2:39 am

Any true mental health care professional or chemical dependency counselor is absolutely appalled at this disgusting show. Dr. Drew should have his license (if he even carries one) revoked immediately. There are so many breaches of ethical codes on this show they are too many to list. One that stands out recently is the session with Steven and his mom; how dare these so-called doctors allow this grown-man addict continue to blame his mom for his disease. If Steven dies prematurely from his disease, Drew and that other quack are partly to blame. Disgusting. Even the tech Shelly (or whatever her name is) hugging the patients is a horrible example of crossing boundaries a genuine treatment professional would NEVER cross. The entire show is merely a money maker for drew and all his cohorts at the expense of these people’s lives. You should all be appalled.

Susan November 23, 2008 at 4:16 am

“Holding onto (sic) resentment and resentments cause relapse”, WOW what a powerful statement. This and the context in which is was presented hit me like a lead balloon. It also opened a lot of internal dialog that I thought I’d buried. In my case, I keep trying to justify and excuse everyones else’s behavior because that is what I was taught to do. However, I get confused because things happened and occurred as a child and stay with me and now I am an adult. So now I tell myself that because that I am an adult, I have to get over it and I have to forgive all past behaviors regardless of how I felt. But on the other hand, I had feelings as a child that I didn’t know how to express, discuss, describe, label or deal with and I want the right to express them now, at 43, like I was before I was 18 and too naive and scarred to express them. But nobody cares, gets it or understands and it makes moving forward hard and scary because you wonder…. gee I really don’t want to be reminded of how I’m an adult and I should be able to just get over it. If it was so simple, I don’t think so many people would be feeling the confusion that I experience and as a result want to do like I do and eliminate feeling the feelings at all. With all due respect, I really wish I learned to be heartless and not care two hoots about anyone or anything. Either that or I wish some how certain past memories could be eliminated, as a way to eliminate the pain and hurt that goes along with them.

With respect to the comment by Laura T., You go girl. You must have such a great, clear and very defined life to be able to point out so many systematic flaws. I find the show helpful and more real than the coldness you’d like exhibited. I think that what you are pointing out is important if the intent and underlying motivation crosses boundaries. I’m glad to see that you have such a perfect expertise on the subject that you know and understand what exactly transpires during the unwatched “downtime” that we all don’t see and that you know and understand the feelings and needs of those being treated. Yes…. I am appalled…. at you and your ~&#+(!@&&&*@!#~ umptions.
I wish only the best to all those seeking treatment and those doing the treating.

Elle Bea November 23, 2008 at 8:26 am

I dedicate this Eagles song to all those who keep blameing others for thier drug problems, esp. those who blame thier parents!

GET OVER IT

I turn on the tube and what do I see
A whole lotta people cryin dont blame me
They point their crooked little fingers ar everybody else
Spend all their time feelin sorry for themselves
Victim of this, victim of that
Your mommas too thin; your daddys too fat

Get over it
Get over it
All this whinin and cryin and pitchin a fit
Get over it, get over it

You say you havent been the same since you had your little crash
But you might feel better if I gave you some cash
The more I think about it, old billy was right
Lets kill all the lawyers, kill em tonight
You dont want to work, you want to live like a king
But the big, bad world doesnt owe you a thing

Get over it
Get over it
If you dont want to play, then you might as well split
Get over it, get over it

Its like going to confession every time I hear you speak
Youre makin the most of your losin streak
Some call it sick, but I call it weak

You drag it around like a ball and chain
You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain
You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown
Got your mind in the gutter, bringin everybody down
Complain about the present and blame it on the past
Id like to find your inner child and kick its little +~`@+%!***~%__( Get over it
All this &*)(+~%&&++_`)__* in and moanin and pitchin a fit
Get over it, get over it

Get over it
Its gotta stop sometime, so why dont you quit
Get over it, get over

TIGERBEAR1 November 23, 2008 at 10:22 am

One thing to be said Being an ongoing day by day RECOVERING freebase addict is that when people start their addiction they fail to Grow up emotionally, Example if a resentment such as bad parental relations drive you to drink and use to self medicate the emoional pain. As years of addiction go by most people are stagnated both spitually & emotionally- they emotionaly stop developing into adulthood the way a normal person would without these resentments & drug & alcohol Dependancies.
Some addicts with Long Term addictions are almost “child-like” emotionally when they get sober at say in their 40′s.

Jean November 23, 2008 at 12:01 pm

Having lived with a husband with addiction problems, I find celebrity rehab very interesting and comforting to wach. I wish all the participants all the best in their search for recovery. They seem to really want to get sober and it is not an easy road. Do the work though and stick with your outpatient programs, AA, NA and all kinds of therapy. Stay out of places where people drink and do drugs. This will help you stay sober. I think Dr. Drew and his staff are superlative.
Addiction is a horrible disease that kills people, ruins lives and breaks hearts. I would urge families to try and heal. You never know when it may be the last time you speak to the addict and you do not want to have any lifetime regrets that haunt you.
I hope Steven and his mother can reach some sort of peace between them so Steven can get well.
I hope Jeff can finally live a happy life off drugs but I think the issues with the girlfriend threaten it. Rodney is just a gem of a human being. I pray for him and am sorry for the brutality he suffered.
Amber and Julie are talented ladies. I hope for the best for you. It isn’t easy being a woman and an addict. Sad things can happen to you and you can further harm yourself. Work hard and get well.
The addict that I loved never stuck it out with therapy or never tried to heal bad relationships from his past. He died as a result of his addictions. So many people loved him but he did not love himself or seek the help. A lot of denial. These people are lucky, they have admitted to their problems, now they just have to want sobriety really badly and be very serious about securing it for themselves.

God bless all of you. Keep up the good work!

jmiller November 23, 2008 at 12:42 pm

Oh my God! Jeff has, once again, made this show all about him. It focuses on him, poor him, 90% of the time. Get over yourself, and then perhaps your recovery may work.
We never hear from Rodney at all. Any time the focus goes to someone else, Jeff has to go off. I especially feel bad for Gary, as he honestly has medical problems, but at least you don’t see intentional anger focused on others. He has become the dog they love to whip at times, and they don’t even see that they are being manipulated by Jeff, and now, Sean.
Please, if Jeff wants his own show, let him have it, but this is about celebrities, not one celebrity. The other people are never going to get the help they are seeking as long as Jeff is allowed to monopolize all of Dr. Drews time.

Craig Totten November 23, 2008 at 6:47 pm

What is the song plating during the opening of Celebrity Rehab 2 episode 5. It is fantastic and I haven’t been able to find what it is?

Marian November 23, 2008 at 7:23 pm

As a mother who gave up a child, I was extremely disappointed in Stevens mother since she didn’t seem to have the ability to validate any of Stevens feelings! The fact that he couldn’t get her approval after all he’d done for her was quite sad. The very least she could have said was that she could see how he felt that way and expressed much more appreciation for his help rather than complaining about what a bad child he was. Maybe he did make some poor choices but so did she so why does she need to act so innocent and why did he have to sue her for his power of attorney? I believe she wanted to paint herself a pretty picture for the audience instead of coming clean about her own actions. I would expect Steven to have distorted memories since he had so many issues to deal with as a child. Steven deserves a great deal more compassion from his mother and he should not continue to care for her since it would probably create more resentment until a large number of issues are resolved between them.

Irene November 23, 2008 at 7:28 pm

Well I don’t know if they read this, but this message is for Steven Adler and it comes directly from my heart. Is there a message board that you can write directly to characters, like in other shows??

Here goes the message:

Dear Steven:

I am very sad to see you in this position, but I a also glad that you’re getting the help that you need. I am a huge G’N R fan and I love your music, but also I have learned to love as a person, while watching this show. I really hope that you can get pass all of this and get your act together. Forget about your mom, about Axl and about everything in the past. Let this flow, you got a future ahead and it’s up to you to make it brighter. I really wish you the best and please continue to give us great music. Love, Irene.

nathan November 23, 2008 at 7:48 pm

i wanted to say thank you for who ever decided to put this on tv i watch this show so much i love it because i may be young but in a way it helps me cuz i to do have an addiciton problem and it does help to see how you treat everyone and kinda helps me not to the point i can stop cuz its hard too but in a way. i hope everyone can fight their addictions and hopefully it will save there lives because everyone on the show are truely good people who made mistakes and are trying to fix that and shouldnt be doing someting harmful to themselves!!

cynthia November 23, 2008 at 7:57 pm

This show has been the best “free” therapy for me. I have an addiction problem amongst others and I sit and watch this show for hours. It gives me hope and courage to make things right with myself. I have a long road but death is the only alternative…..

Spike November 23, 2008 at 7:59 pm

If I was on the Staff with Dr Drew, I wouldn’t be coddling the clients especially Jeff. I don’t know why they don’t call him on his crap. He should be told to stop acting like a spoiled baby, grow the hell up, and stop crying to everyone that he’s a victim. Babying an addict only makes them feel justified in there behavior and drug use. I am in groups with addicts everyday for six hours. I am in recovery myself. I shot crystal meth everyday for over 25 years, so I know about being a drug addict. Like I said I am in recovery, I am clean from crystal meth for 10 years now. They need to call them on their crap and stop coddling them. After all we addicts are the biggest cry babies in the world and need to be told to grow up and take a look at our own behavior.
Spike

rennie November 23, 2008 at 9:03 pm

They are right jeff does think it’s all about him and disrupts the whole group and it seems to me that he sees how far he can push the dr. To see just how much he can get away with it. Dr. just how many times are you going to let him get away with things. Can’t you see he doesn’t want help. I can something about this because i was a user of pills,herion,crack you name and I just about did it.So no one can say oh she doesn’t know what shes talking about because I been there done that. Also alot of the people you have in there have problems with there mother I do to. I hate here. I can go on and on but it’s not about me right now it’s about the people you have there now. Even though jeff is like he is I still wish everyone the best of luck in there recovery. I might be young but I know how each and everyone of you feel. GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND DR. FOR PUTTING UP WITH SO MUCH JUST TO SAVE SOMEONE ELSES LIFE!

Steve November 23, 2008 at 11:25 pm

How is a career criminal [Rodney King…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King considered a “celebrity”? Since when does repeated law breaking raise you to celebrity status?
It is a disservice to the others for him to be included in this group.

elizabeth gray November 23, 2008 at 11:27 pm

Since the first minute of the first show of this season I was “hooked”. As I’ve noticed others here say, watching this show has been like therapy for me too. I can feel myself heal as I watch and listen to these courageous people go through their process. I’m amazed at the depth of feeling that is coming across on a television show and I can only wonder, and watch in awe at the thought of how much more intense, how much more powerful it would be to be there. I can only envy them their chance at a second chance, knowing it’s come to them from terrible places and now that they’re working so hard you can see they have a truly good chance at staying recovered once they leave. But how much they must want to stay! Even poor Kinicky (spelling?), he just wants someone to listen, to care enough to say: no, please stay, we want you here. This Dr. Drew fellow, he is so caring and everything that comes out of his mouth is not at all what you usually hear from doctors. I look forward to going through recovery together, with all of these people on this show, and even though I’ll never meet them I consider them all very good friends. Keep your courage, keep your focus group so you can help me keep mine.

Missy November 24, 2008 at 1:33 am

This makes me happy that they are finaly putting something real on t.v. after all of these so called reality shows, thank you for something REAL!!!! Dr Drew there should be more doctors in the world like you. I cant take my eyes off this show, it lets the whole world know there is HOPE, there is HELP, and you dont have to feel alone. THANK YOU VH1.

Melissa Leanne November 24, 2008 at 3:49 am

Dr. Drew and Season 2 Patients,
This is an amazing group of people. I want to express my deep gratitude to each one of these amazingly talented people. Sharing the intimate details of their lives and baring their personal struggles with addiction is a generous gift to anyone who watches. I want to give each of them a hug and say “thank you.”
I am not a huge fan of most reality shows because many glamorize and promote the bad behavior and excesses that plagued your patients and lead to them to your care. Celebrity Rehab is different.
It is tremendously brave to participate in a program and at the same time reveal your insecurities and frailties with the world. To voluntarily share this unflattering and painful personal experience is a public service. I’m honored to get to know each of you.
I have learned so much about addiction. As a mother of an addicted 22 year old, I now realize how I may have exacerbated the situation. I now acknowledge and take responsibility for my part of his issues.
Dr. Drew, I respect you tremendously. It is so easy to become self-righteous when you are dealing with addicts, and you don’t. I now try very hard to put my judgments on the shelf. I have also watched with interest the boundaries between yourself, your staff and the patients. All of you have amazing fortitude with appropriate boundaries.
It also made me feel better to see the humanity in your staff and how they also struggle at times with the exhausting emotions that can be part of the job The example you and your staff set is invaluable to people like me who have addicts in their lives. The show gives a template to follow when we have to have these interactions.
You and your staff are painfully respectful and seem to honestly care for this collection of beautiful and distressed people.
Well done, everyone.

brenda November 24, 2008 at 11:43 am

This is just a word of support for Gary Busey-Thanks for fighting to maintain your essential kindness. The others appear to focus their rage on you. Your ernest desire to be of help to others just does not fit their egocentric worldview. You have found a peace in your life that many there have not. Yes, you careened through many years of your life. Now, it appears self examination is your desired focus. Good Luck.

Julie Todd November 24, 2008 at 2:45 pm

My husband and I are recovering alcoholics with 16 months sobriety, and we never miss an episode. I can relate to some part of each of the patients, and want so badly for each of them to succeed. When watching some of the outbursts it is easy to look at some of them in an unfavorable light, but when I think about the struggles I faced in the beginning, when confronting feelings that I had not had in a long time, I remember how “unfavorable” I was to those around me, as well. I did not succeed at my first try at sobriety, and found that no matter how bad I thought things could get, there were always new “bottoms”. I can see where this treatment, even if not successful this first go round, is most definately the beginnings of ground work that can be returned to, if – and here is the catch for all of us addicts – IF we live long enough to make it back. I would like to say something to each of them, but that would take to long. I do want to say something to Jeff, however, because some part of my experience is similar. Our relationship began to be violent on a regular basis when we were drinking. I was being forced to detox in a hospital after a suicide attempt, when, on one of his visits, he told me that we would have to stop drinking if we were going to stay together, and that he thought we could have a good life if we tried. I remember vividly my first sponsor telling me that we could get sober AT THE SAME TIME, but not TOGETHER. I remember I didn’t like that, because I was relying on him heavily to keep me sober. Naturally, him being human and all, he was not enough to keep it from happening again. We work our programs differently, and there are many days when I am sure that I would not be sober if it weren’t for him, but I have MANY tools that I use, because there are some days when he is not perfect in my eyes, and I cannot do it for him alone. There are times when I do it for my kids, times when I do it for myself, times when I do it for my fellow alcoholics that I don’t want to let down, and times when I am certain only God has pulled me through. One of the biggest things I’ve learned is not to react – or not to act on an emotion immediately… if I say I can always act on it later, I eventually calm down and see it in a different light. I can say that today I have a very large gratitude list… so many things have changed that I cannot put into words. Living without the help of drugs and alcohol is one of the hardest things I’ve ever attempted, but it is also one of the most rewarding. You don’t have to do it alone, but don’t rely on just one person, because they are only human.

yvonne November 24, 2008 at 3:56 pm

amber, i’,m 53. mom of 5. my mom did not love my dad. she stayed in the marriage because he was a great provider. she made my life a living hell. i was a beautiful girl so she entered me in every contest to show me off. after becoming an adult, i still thoutht i had to be perfect for her. if i knew she was coming to my home i would clean and cook for her. at age 45 i wrecked my car. on the way home i was scared to death. i had flashbacks of when i was a little girl and would get abused.
then it dawned on me that i owned the car and she had no more power over me. i stop cleaning and cooking when she said she was coming to visit. it’s time for you to live your life. your mom has lived the life she wanted too. whether good or bad. there are people in our lives that we have to love but don’t have to let there toxic behavior spill over into our lives. as a child i had no other choice. i wish my dad had gotten an divorce and moved on. he deserved some happiness. heal yourself. you have so much life to live, so much to offer to the world. i’v raised 5 kids with lupus,2 on insulin. now i’m dealing with lupus,sjogren’s and other diseases. i take pain meds. you can beat this but you have nothing to prove to your mom. i totally disagree with dr. drew. i don’t think you should have any contact with her right now. you should never live with her again. don’t feel obligated. there are great
places for the elderly. i don’t mean no contact. visit her like an adult child suppose to do. get in your car drive away live your life until it’s time for your next visit. frank sintra said it best I DID IT MY WAY
AND THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT YOUR MOM DID!

tracy November 24, 2008 at 5:47 pm

Hey Steven-I just want you to know that I am one of your biggest fans-not only for your music but because of what your doing now. I too was a serious addict however i have been sober for now 10 years. I had a really bad realtionship with both of my parents so i totally get where you are coming from. Hang in there and don’t give up! I pray that you and Slash will reinvent your relationship and good luck with everything-don’t ever forget that you have tru fans who love what you do!

Tina November 24, 2008 at 6:01 pm

Steven,

Your story touches me so much. I started watching the show but really was tuning in to see how you are doing. I know the struggles of being abanded by a mother my case seems so much smaller when I see yours but i hope that you can bring your mother on and with Dr. Drew’s help you can work through some of those issues i think that is going to be one of the biggest roads to recovery for you. You have to heal those wounds and they are very deep and very ugly but deal with her. Maybe Dr Drew could get her to not talk but only listen, does not seem like that will happen but I hope for your sake it does. You are much to young to be on deaths door as many times as you have been. My prayers are with you and your family I hope that you survive after you get out of rehab and stay sober. Best of luck Tina

Brad November 24, 2008 at 7:35 pm

My support and best wishes for these dear people trying to get sober. I am an alcoholic with 16 years of sobriety and still participate in a program of recovery. Although the underlying principal that facilitates my recovery, and the recovery of countless others, is one alcoholic sharing with another, I am very appreciative of the concern and knowledge of Dr. Drew in his effort to treat people in the throes of alcoholism and/or addiction. He has demonstrated to me that he grasps the nature of the disease and has an appreciation of what is required to get and stay sober–more so than any other non-alcoholic I have come across.

Some of the show, however, does seem contrived for the sake of spicing up the entertainment value. These big dramatic family confrontations are one example. My personal belief and experience lend me to believe that these encounters will happen in due course if one is honestly and thoroughly involved in the steps of recovery. You know we all don’t get here overnight, and likewise recovery can take time as well.

I take some exception to hauling in Steven’s mother, when he is what, about a week or two sober, and expecting either him or his mother to be anything but fearful, hurt and defensive. As outlined in the program of recovery, the amends step comes after a few other steps and often after a bit more sobriety. Also, when doing the amends the other person’s faults, no matter how glaring, are to be brought up. It seemed to me, that Steven’s mom was being outnumbered and somewhat grilled by the outside family therapist. I am sure she has her faults, but the steps are for the recovering alcoholic to own responsibility for past actions and make the attempt to set them right. Not everything can be corrected but the outcome is actually less important than whether an honest attempt has been made or not. It would appear to be a useless and counter-intuitive action to take to most alcoholics, and believe me I felt pretty much the way Steven did, and yet this is precisely the approach I had to take. Make no mistake, the big hurt inside had to be delt with, but in another fashion and not in this step.

Powerlessness is the root of our dilemma. Powerlessness over alcohol and drugs, powerlessness over the actions of others. It is often true that we have suffered as children and still live with that hurt. But here’s the thing, not everybody who does go through these ugly experiences later has no control over alcohol or drugs to anesthetise the emotional pain. It is not a matter of willpower or moral fitness, but whether or not someone is alcoholic which determines if an individual becomes addicted alcohol or drugs. Freedom and healing for me has come sometime quickly, and sometimes slowly but always requied me to be willing, open, honest and thorough in step work.

My sympathy to Jeff also. I personally did not have to endure physical pain in recovery. But I have heard stories of those who have and stayed sober through it. Not to make light of Jeff”s situation, but it is really true that no matter how bad you have it, someone else has (or had) it worse in recovery. Many of us in Southern California remember the gentleman (I believe his name was Mike F.) from the San Diego area who had many years of sobriety, got divorced, and was struggling with Lou Gherig’s disease which ultimatly took his life. But dammit he stayed sober. Not only did he stay sober, but he sponsored people and was a good example to the rest of us throughout his life even in advanced stages of his m.l.s.

When required for legitimate medical reasons, we do take pain medication after all we are not in business of being martyrs. But it must be taken as prescribed only. If someone can’t adhere to prescribed dosing, then it is suggested to let a non-alcoholic, sponsor or spouse or doctor, maintain control over the medication and dole it out as prescribed. In particular, many friends and acquaintances have gone out with Vicadin prescribed for pain. Of those that have gone out, some are dead. So it is a very delicate tightrope to walk, and nobody should attempt to go it alone.

Finally, both season 1 and 2 are rather lacking in addressing the fact that being of service is a cornerstone of anyone’s recovery. And by that I mean reaching out and supporting, sponsoring or guiding others in recovery. Maybe towards the end of season 1, the cast prepared and served a meal to their relatives which is being of service to one’s family and a start in the right direction. But absent regular contact with the newly sober, the odds of a lengthy or meaningful sobriety are extremely low.

So those of you who may be thinking about sobriety, are new to sobriety, or know or live with someone who could use a program of recovery, I would say that some of what happens in Celebrity rehab does happen in one form or another in real world recovery programs. For me, there has been a bit more required in the way of step work and working with others. But the healing of the soul, as well as fellowship and cameraderie enjoyed along the path, are always present when one alcoholic shares with another as we trudge the road of happy destiny.

Brad November 24, 2008 at 7:38 pm

Typo correction: The other person’s faults, no matter how glaring, are NOT to be brought up.

We keep our side of the street clean.

Marian November 24, 2008 at 7:44 pm

Gary seems to cause problems of one kind or another day after day. Isn’t all the drama that surrounds him a distraction for the others? Isn’t their chance for sobriety being deminished?