The Celebreality Interview - Heather

“I always try to get as much information out of my mind as possible,” Heather told us toward the end of our talk with her and considering how epic this interview turned out to be, it’s practically an understatement. Below, we attempt to leave no stone unturned as we grill Heather about her time on Rock of Love Charm School. The plate-throwing. The A-list claims. The exposing of her peers. The pot abuse. The unraveling. All of it and so much more is covered below, as we attempt to make sense of the stuff that, well, didn’t really make too much sense on TV.

How are you?

I’m doing great. I haven’t watched this week’s episode or been online or anything like that. I’m moving forward not backwards.

That’s smart. I’m surprised that things turned out the way that they did. Going into the show, you seemed to excited. I thought you were going to win.

I initially said no when they asked me to do this show, because I knew I was burnt out. I was exhausted mentally and physically from the other shows. But this sounded like a great experience and it’s such an honor to be part of stuff like this that I don’t want to turn anything down. This is no one’s fault by my own. I chose to be a part of these experiences, and I wouldn’t take it back, even though I’ve done and said some stupid and embarrassing things. For Charm School, I knew it might be chaotic living with some of the same people I’ve lived with over and over again. It really was a challenge. One of the toughest in my life. But I feel like I was 100 percent real and honest.

Brandi C., rarely has anything nice to say, but even she said that she thought the stress of doing shows back to back was weighing on you in particular.

Yeah! Even Megan told me that. We were still decompressing from I Love Money. It took me six months to decompress from Rock of Love. You’re put in these quarantined situations with people you’re competing with, so it’s automatically a negative environment. It’s just hard for me to deal with, being a trusting person.  At the same time, I always push things to the extreme because whatever I’m on, I want to be a success. Even on a physical aspect, I went and got my eyebrow pierced and bought the biggest hookerific outfit that I could find. Even though I knew I was there to work on myself, it was still a television show.

Was the outfit your way of establishing “Heather, Before,” so that as the show progressed, we could see, “Heather, After,” in no uncertain terms?

Yeah. It was a costume. I don’t walk the streets in that hookerific outfit. Some of the co-stars didn’t get that. I didn’t want to come in jeans and a T-shirt and leave in jeans and a T-shirt because it’s a show about transformation. I wanted to transform in every single aspect.

When you chalked your frazzled nerves up to abstaining from pot, was that the truth or were you just sort of scapegoating?

I wouldn’t have said anything, but I’m not a follower, I’m a leader. I was detoxing, and I felt like a lot of people weren’t. Everyone has their vices and whatnot, but I felt like what people didn’t see was a lot of dishonesty and rewards for dishonesty. I know I shouldn’t be worried about that, but when you put so much of your heart and soul in for the company you work for, for the network you work for, it’s frustrating.

You aren’t worried about your marijuana use or your alcohol use?

No, I rarely drink. I’ve cut back so much now. As I get older, it’s not good for my body. I’m kind of over the partying. There’s always going to be a wild child in me and I’m always going to like having fun, but during the week I’m in bed early. I’m not out every night hammered.

When you said that this was the longest you’ve gone without smoking pot, does that mean you were smoking pot on Rock of Love and I Love Money, since you lasted a long time on both of those shows?

No comment.

What did you think Sharon meant when she told you that you needed help while taking back your pin? Did she mean rehab or anger management or what?

I don’t know! I was confused as hell. Everybody was saying, “You should work on yourself,” and I thought I did that. When it came down to the end, I was looking at this as more of a competition, like I Love Money where people connive and do this and do that to get people eliminated. God forbid I tell the truth. Then I look like the assh***.

Were you relieved to leave?

Yeah. Within 24 hours I felt better, just leaving the physical environment. That house had a lot of pollen and dust around so I had a migraine the whole time I was there. But I was also just away from the atmosphere I didn’t feel comfortable in anymore.

On the last episode, it seems like you almost set yourself up for failure by detaching from the other girls and refusing to get along with them. I thought getting along would have been good strategy, at least.

I can’t be fake. I can’t do that. I would rather leave with dignity. I went there for the right reasons and just because I didn’t win the money, it doesn’t mean that I didn’t win the hearts of many of my fans and more people out there.

Is it fair to say that you started unraveling during the make-under challenge?

Yeah. I was doing so well up to that point. I won three challenges in a row. I feel like making me look like a guy was maybe purposely done because I kept winning challenges and my morale was up. I knew I didn’t have a chance in that challenge because if the guys picked the girl that looked like a dude, their buddies back home would be like, “You picked a guy! You’re gay!”

What was it about having to go out looking like that, though, that provoked such an emotional response?

I was just really starting to get uncomfortable in the house. I wasn’t happy anymore. I was just trying to stick it out.

That led to the plate-throwing incident. For the record, were you trying to hit Lacey?

I wasn’t. I was an MVP softball player in high school. I have excellent aim. I could have taken her head right off. There was a camera by me and I was dramatic because that’s what makes good TV. If there weren’t a camera around, I never would have thrown that plate.

What about the A-list celebrity comment? Do you think of yourself as an A-list celebrity?

No, I don’t think I’m an A-list celebrity, but I definitely think I’m a fixture in Hollywood. I’m not Sharon Osbourne-level, I’m not Angelina Jolie-level. Of course not. But I think that I have something special and that I’m a good person with a lot of potential. I’m famous in a small way. But keep in mind that I didn’t bring that up, and I’ve never brought that up. That’s just Lacey’s jealousy.

What about the T-shirt challenge, where you were scoffed for putting your face on it?

That came from feeling bad for some things I’d done in the past, including the fight at the reunion, and I thought this would be the opportunity to point that out and show that Charm School gave me time to reflect on that. Unfortunately, my presentation didn’t convey that.

The other girls interviewed that putting yourself on a T-shirt was a sign of you being full of yourself.

If I was gonna do that, I would have put the hottest picture of myself that I have. I put my face looking down because I’ve made mistakes in my life that I’m remorseful for. I never got the chance to tell Daisy on national TV that I was sorry. I figured this could be my way of doing that. I wasn’t trying to be vain. Look at all the sexy pictures I have of myself on my MySpace. I could have put any one of those on there.

What about calling out Jessica? Was that strategy?

It came from knowing how reality TV works and knowing that they weren’t going to get rid of Lacey. It just wouldn’t have been smart to get rid of the troublemaker. And to be honest, I was sick of talking about Lacey. I would rather think about Jessica than Lacey. I also knew that they wouldn’t keep people in the house like Jessica because she’s a cool, sweet girl. I’m not sure why she’s upset with me. She told me that she got so much hate mail until I came on Rock of Love 2, got her drunk and yanked her out of her shell. And then, I made that Charm School episode all about her again, too.

It seemed like you and Lacey were headed toward reconciliation. You teared up when she sang her song about you, and your puppet kissed hers. When did that derail?

We had to perform our poems and songs twice. What you saw on the show was my genuine first reaction. Once she went through it again, I was like, wait a minute. I could just tell it was bulls***. And then when I got into an altercation with Destiney, Lacey jumped in. That’s not a friend.

You and Destiney seemed so close. It was kind of disturbing to watch your friendship unravel like that.

That’s the thing: this is the first time you’ve seen it unravel on TV. I’ve always been a friend to Destiney. I don’t think she’s ever been a friend to me. Destiney was hanging out with Lacey, Brandi C., and Megan’s room the night before Charm School, saying she wanted to be in their alliance and that she hated me. I found this out later. When she comes into Charm School, she’s my friend. I felt like she knew I’d take her to the top. Regarding our fight, I was just saying what the truth was that we already knew through national television. I couldn’t care less if these girls hump the entire army. I was hanging on by a thread, and I couldn’t handle her outright lies.

The survey was a satisfaction survey, though, not a promiscuity survey.

I didn’t get that. I really didn’t. Maybe that was the problem. I don’t think that Destiney is a bad person, I just don’t think she’s honest about her issues and vices. She’d rather cry and have people feel sorry for her.

You arguing with her on the toilet was up there with plate-throwing as far as iconic Celebreality moments go.

My mom was pissed about that. That’s just gross.

It didn’t give you pause that she was so upset?

That’s what she does these days: she cries and cries and cries. She plays the victim, and I know better.

Her point of view was: my sex life, my business.

Yeah, then don’t do it on national television. Don’t talk about it on national television.

Do you feel like you got a raw deal?

Yeah. Well, it’s a catch-22 for me. I’m very grateful and I wouldn’t be where I am today if I didn’t go through all that. I know it looked like I think I’m better than people, but I don’t. I just think I have more potential than living in a house with deceiving people over and over again. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to move on. I have new people around me. I’m working on new shows and motion pictures and a documentary.

Did you learn anything?

My posture is better. I started my own company called Hollywood Heather. I’ve been in touch with T.C., the life-coach that spoke to us.

If you had to do this again, would you?

Yeah. I really, really enjoyed watching this show, with the exception of the last episode, which would be too hard to sit through. Charm School was the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I’m proud of myself. I’m not perfect. Yeah, I turn into Teen Wolf and snap into a Slim Jim sometimes, but that’s what happens to human emotions in tough situations. That’s what’s supposed to happen on these shows.

Keep up with Heather via her FamousVH1Friends.com profile and her MySpace.

Related content
Rock of Love Charm School show page
Charm School videos and extras

This entry was posted on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 at 12:06 pm