Jennifer Gimenez’s Sober House commentary continues! Below, the house mother talks about Steven’s arrest, the bruises she revealed on this week’s episode, the group’s decision to hit a night club and Seth’s resulting violation of curfew.
We see Steven arrested as a result of your 911 call at the beginning of the episode. You say that you didn’t feel like you had to justify anything to anyone, but did you have any doubt at that point?
It wasn’t doubt. I knew that it was ultimately the right thing. Like I said before, we called the cops to have him escorted to Las Encinas. I didn’t know he was going to be holding drugs on him. If he didn’t, none of this would have happened. I had reservation, though. His life at that point was in serious jeopardy and so was all of ours. But my heart hurt for him. That’s where doubt came from. I felt like I was the one punishing him, but I know that I wasn’t – I was trying to save his life.
Regardless, it caused animosity and resentment from the group. Were you expecting that?
I knew automatically they were going to start turning on me. The disease is stronger than they are, at this point so early in their recovery. The sentiment was how dare I take their Steven away, the one they were in treatment with, the nice guy they know. They didn’t get to see what I saw. Someone has to be the bad person, and I felt that they needed a target and I was it.
Dr. Drew told the group that he was “OK” with what went down. Was that reassuring to you?
Yeah. When we went into group process, the members of the group got its chance to express themselves in a safe environment, because our house had not been safe up till this point. Nikki had serious issues with what I did and so did Amber. So did everyone pretty much. But when Dr. Drew said I did the right thing, they kinda went, “Ah!” They needed a leader and having Dr. Drew say that to them was a relief.
You made reference to it last week, but this week you show the bruises that resulted from your altercation with Steven. How exactly did you get them?
Furniture was being thrown and there were drawers and doorknobs to contend with. He had a little table that he lifted and threw. It hit my legs and was pushed against me – that kind of stuff. It wasn’t like he was swinging at me, it was stuff being shoved while we were just standing there trying to talk reason to him.
Another point is that some of the house members go out to get jobs. This seems particularly humbling for people in the entertainment industry. Do you have any experience doing this sort of thing?
There was a time when I needed to go back to basics, because I never was taught basics. I was discovered (as a model) really young, so I kinda had to learn basic stuff like filing and paperwork and answering phones. I worked as a receptionist for a quick second, but it helped me a lot. I became accountable, did simple tasks, learned how to quick and then moved on to the next place I wanted to go in my life.
When everyone decided to go out to a nightclub, you were vocally against it. Can you talk a little more about why?
We all get choices. Hollywood nightlife was most of those people’s scene, and I just wonder so early in recovery, how do you say no to drugs and alcohol in your old haunt? How is that not tempting and luring? Why put yourself in a situation when you’re tempted, and when you don’t really know the word “no?”
Are there any benefits from testing yourself in this way and passing, though? Everyone came back that night still sober.
There will be a time when they can say no, once they amass the tools. At this point, they just don’t have them. I can go into a bar or a party for the most part. It doesn’t bother me today. This group goes out one time, and “Yay! The war’s over!”? I don’t think so. And there’s no reward at the end of that day, anyway. And as you’ll see, my assumption was correct.
Dr. Drew says Mary’s manager/boyfriend David is a threat to her sobriety. Did you get that sense, as well?
Yeah. It didn’t seem to me that David had Mary’s best interest in mind. By toying with her and showing her alcohol when she’s three days, four days sober, he’s not being helpful. He denies her alcoholism, but then it’s like, why is she trying to get sober on her own will? I don’t think David’s a very positive influence in Mary’s recovery, especially at that point.
Seth ends up violating curfew. How disappointing was that for you?
I was frustrated with Seth. He comes in thinking that it’s a joke. He was playing with our time. We were concerned about him, and he thinks it’s all funny and that he got away with it. If you break the rules, what benefit are you getting? It’s not going to hurt me. I’m not the one getting penalized. If you don’t want it and you think it’s a joke, allow someone else to come in to get the care and guidance and support and the tools to get better.
Will suggests that you’re lenient – he says that he’s been in sober living where a five-minute violation of curfew is enough to get you kicked out.
I followed the guidelines. There were consequences to Seth’s actions. Was I lenient? No, I followed the rules. But I did realize that Seth was in more danger than I thought. It made me a lot more aware of him and I became really concerned. All I could do was give him suggestions and let him know I was there for him.
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I think your show is great. It show people just how real celebralities are. I wish everyone the best on the show. Jennifer you are great. I am sure you put up with alot and to do that and still truely care about these people is great. I am a nurse so I can relate to you. Being called a (+&&*^~+)^++!_`_! etc and still show concern takes a special kind of person. People who are making neg comments about the show are idiots. They either are users and can’t come to grips with it or are heartless. I don’t even know any of you and never will but I feel all your pain. You are doing a great job.
Sincerely,
Peggy
I was just wondering how you where doing..everyone makes it about the celebs..But there are real people with real problems..I myself have been clean for 8 years and to me it is my pride and joy, and then of course my family. I was just wondering with people on the show I know you medicate them..just wondering why you dont tell them what could help all though I know every diseases is very different!!!!! I just really wanted to thank you and have a ton of questions for you and Dr. Drew what you are doing is opening everyones eyes to reality not what the want to see what they need to see. I wish you the best and would love to talk to you about my situation if you can email me ..would love that..Keep your courage your strength and your belief.
Jennifer’s choice was the best. What the heck do you do when someone is that HIGH like Steven was? I can’t believe that this is the second day and he has used since the first day! I will feel deeply hurt if he dies, but hey, he is making the choices.
It was not fair for Amber and I forgot her name the other chick to get after Jen. Steven needed to go…where else would he have gone? and he had DRUGS on him.
I think Dr. Drew should have supported his staff. When he said he was “ok” that’s telling me “I would have chosen something else, but is done; #_!@#&**!&&+)$$! it.” Where was he then to make the decision….Not sure if Jen spoke to her that night, I cannot recall.
Jennifer, you did the right thing, if they ain’t gonna obey the rules, then they should go. Steven didn’t, and the girls being afraid (nikki and amber) if they don’t do nothing wrong then they don’t have to worry about getting the cops called on them. YOU GO GIRL
With Steven using and being abusive then arrested. In tonights episode everyone is going to a nightclub! I agree with Will and Jenn. Is this really a sober living facility? Or is it a free for all, where the patients can do as they want. The ones who really want to be sober are not in the best enviromnet. God Bless the ones who are holding on. Stay Strong!!!
I think that Jennifer did what she had to do when she made the decision to call the cops on Seth. SHE DID THE RIGHT THING. If you have never had an addict on drugs in your house acting violent before you could never understand what Jenn was going through when she was forced to make the decision she had to make.
Jen,
I’m writing to tell you, you did the right thing. What a job. Hang in. I’m sure more people would agree with me. Take Care don’t let them get you down.
Leslie
This is for, Steven………… I cry, because I know your pain. I laugh, because I know your hummor. I laugh again, because, I understand. I am 50, and I cry, and laugh all the time, just a part of getting OLDER. Oh well, life must go on, and you my friend, must play again, you must play again for “Guns and Roses”, you must find the strenght and play again. Did I mention….I used to watch the cutest little boy, his name was “Cody”, at four years old, he nicknamed me, “Rosie”. I find that…………….beautiful.
Steven!!!! Goodnight and Godbless you my friend.
Jennifer you know you did the right thing.
For Amber and the singer I think Nikki to have the perspective they did is off to me. Amber is the one who was upset the first time Steven relasped and did not feel safe in the sober house. Amber said she would feel safer at home. That might be true. They are all VERY blessed to live in a sober house that looks like that. I have dated s few addicts and lets say the sober houses two of them were not totally digusting but in NO way looked like that.
I feel for Steven and I pray that he can move forward with the support of his wife and the program.
I know that this is a reality show. I just is mind boggling that (I may be wrong so if I am I apolgize) that Dr. Drew mentioned he would detox him and get him stabilzed and then there will be a meeting to see if he can come back to the house. Most addicts are in rehab the minium a month and with years and years of addiction three months. I know this is a show but from what has been aired one would think he needs to be inpatient for a few months to really deal with more of his demons if you will. I wish him positive energy and one day at a time may he see the light and get well for himself, then his family and then his fans.
People might not get it like Amber, tv reality show and a sober house most people have to go to Steven would not have been given a second chance after he brought in Heroin the first time.
Maybe as Amber and Nikki get further along in there recovery and work there program they will get that this is the real world where living. The matter if you model at one time or where on American Idiol that does not prevent one from going to jail . People must take accountablity for the good as well as the bad choices they make.
PS I know this is off the topis of this blog but Rodney King I knew after the second show was in it to win it . He is such a good soul and real. Anyone who has anything to say that is negative yes its tv but when someone has true heart that comes through, He dod not speak alot but actions they speak volumes over words. As well as his girlfriend both of them added so much to the first show!
Jessie
I would seriously love to see someone smack Jennifer down to where she belongs. I’m an ex-addict as well, and I’ve come accross people like her many many times, as a matter of fact they are cheaper than a dime and dozen. Its not hard to recognise someone who thinks they ride on a pedistal and this )$~)+&&$^#!$(*_@# thinks she’s on the highest out there. I’ve got my money on Nikki..Keepin my fingers crossed..
Shifty-Dude, your way to nice of a guy to keep yourself down bro. Your sobriety should come from the love of your kids, open your eyes and see what your missing man, theres nothing like the love, affection and ever lasting hero status you can get from your children.
Rodney- You got it all together brotha..keep it that way. Its hard for me to fathom what happened to you, yet you shrug it off like it was nothing. I’ve got much love for you my man.
Everyone else…bla
I love this show. I hope all of the celebs can overcome their addictions. Jennifer and Will are great & have a very tough job (but at least you have jobs). Good luck everyone – I think you have a lot of prayers going up for each of you. God bless.
I maintain that Jennifer did exactly the right thing for the situation. It may be a TV show, but really and truly, this is life or death for these house members – all of them. I know this disease well, from the inside out – now in recovery for quite a while, I see from the other side now and it’s quite clear to me that Steven, CONTINUING to use, the other members going out to a ‘partying scene’ are all pretty poor choices. They are not only ‘in their disease’, but acting immature and like spoiled kids. I had to decide what was more important: getting and staying clean and living a life well lived, or partying, lying, dodging, getting over on other folks, getting away with bad behavior, or using. They are doing almost all of those very same things, but without the using part, which WILL come next if they dont get serious. After several arrests, detoxes and rehabs, and turning almost 50 – I finally said “What the hell am I thinking?” I got and continue to stay clean and in recovery. Until they reach that point, they’ll continue to slide along until they spend mucho time in jail for one reason or another or end up dead. That’s the long and short of it. So Jennifer, the rest of this nation does NOT live in that house – I KNOW you did what’s right. Period.
I think what Jen did was in the best intrest of the other residents. Everyone has to remember one word here and that is editing, their very tricky on what and how they show it. One small excample If you look Steve was already cuffed when it show him like he was getting cuffed. The most important person in that house for them is Jen.
She should have kicked him out and sent him home let him decide what he wants to do with his life as we can see it he is not going to change if he did stayed at the sober house once he got out he would do the same thing
I am a huge fan of Celebrity Rehab, but Sober House has been a huge letdown. I am a recovering opiate addict and found it very strange that the people who entered the Sober House were told that they could relapse twice before they would be released. Then when Steven relapsed, he was arrested. Jenn acts as though this was a huge surprise and couldn’t believe Steven would do this. He is a heroin addict! Also,
I believe Jenn’s choice of clothing is inappropriate. She is in charge of men who are in early recovery and her shirts are transparent and her skirts are way too short and revealing. If she wants to be treated like a professional, she should dress like one. I used to look forward to Thursday night all week long, but I believe I will find another way to spend my hour. Dr. Drew, I think you are great and do want what is best for these addicts. I am surprised that you support Jenn calling the police when it could have been handled differently.
Jennifer, I understand what you are going through, especially after Steven Adler, but I watched last night’s episode and will be bluntly honest, I believe how you handled Seth was kind of wrong, yeah, he got home late, but he didn’t use and rather than keep on with the same dialogue “you disappointed me” you should’ve said “well, I’m a little disappointed but I’m proud of you because you didn’t use and you did come home,” giving them all of that I’m disappointed then walking away doesn’t instill anything in them other than the fact that you will never be happy with anything he does, plain and simple, what Will did was good, he instilled a positive note to Seth saying “I’m glad you’re home”, that’s important.
You Know im not gonna sit here and Pre-Judge ANYONE
Jennifer you did what you had to and although many people may have taken the situation and settled it differently so THEY say… You were there Steven Was there we just saw bits of what Happened we werent in the house dealing with the abuse from stevens High.
I wanna say Jennifer you did the right thing YOU SAVED HIS LIFE wether he sees it now or Doesnt! Kudos to you
X0x0x0 I love this Show
Dr Drew seems to be neglecting the care and sobriety of his patients, for the TV cameras and the MONEY!!!
i absolutely agree with Jenn’s decision to call poolice on Steven, even though last season i was really hoping Steven would make it, i just love his smile. I also feel so bad for his wife. The other addicts, except Rodney King, are really annoying. They are still so in that addict mode of thinking that they really feel they should be able to act any way they want and not suffer any consequences. Like Nikki’s statement “someone can call the cops and kick me out whenever they feel like it”, yet she refuses to grasp that it was not because Jenn “felt like it”, but rather to save everyone in the house, and Steven himself from his out of control behavior, grow up Nikki! Jenn is there to supervise the house, not to take verbal and physical abuse–if someone crosses that line, is given an ultimatum and persists in the bad behavior, then she has to do what she has to do. i have to point something out that is hilarious to me–David, Mary Carey’s “friend” was on a Bravo show, “Date my ex: Jo & Slade” last season and was such an arrogant creep! Well obviously Jo, in her good sense and at Slade’s prodding, did not pick David. In fact David was such a jerk that he actually got kicked out of the house on that show, so to now see him hanging out with strippers and thugs is pretty funny.
jennifer is a sellout snitch, she should have kicked him out, but to call the police and face prison time? hell steve would have been better off getting high at home. dont go to rehab if you think you might relaps because the staff will add fuel to the fire. there wasnt any serious felonys being comitted. if the staff cant handle a little heat which is expected at sober houses, find another job, instead of trying to send addicts to prison for using.
Smooze, um…HUH?
Anyway, when did this “Shifty” name come up? I watched the entire season that Seth was on and didn’t hear of the name “Shifty” until the second season. What I don’t like is the fact that Dr. Drew calls him Shifty. I think (I am not a doctor) it is not healthy to encourage addicts to go alter egos or names.
Nikki. Oh dear. What a punch in the fact to hear Nikkie complain that she would be better off at home b/c then well basically if she behaved badly no one would call the police on her. WOW. They ARE addicts. HELLO. Yes, people do get the police called on them when they act out of line. I can see she is in a codependent household back in Texas. Unfortunate.
You know I never knew my grandmother but my mother told me she used to say something like this, regarding children that are not disciplined by their parents/caretakers/elders whomever is responsible for them….”Society will discipline those children and should” that would include, yep…THE POLICE. And the caretakers of those children may not like how society chooses to treat those children while they are children or when they grow up.
So pick yourself up Nikki and take care of yourself. I hope for you and all of you that you stop viewing yourselves as victims or scaredy cats just because someone else in the world will not tolerate your spoiled and veiled view point.
Alert…yes you all are trying to stay sober but…HEROIN is ILLEGAL. Steve is NOT an innocent or innocent. He is sick yes….and he was even sicker after he took ILLEGAL DRUGS which made him worse off.
Mary. Beautiful sweet Mary. Your soul is that of an angel and David doesn’t seem to deserve you as a client or a girlfriend. What is the point of being so disrespectful of Jennifer? They very person that is offering help to Mary and the person that Mary has to live with and answer to….yes she has less than 6 years of sobriety. So? That A LOT more than anyone else living in that house. Why would David talk down about someone’s sobriety? That is incomprehensible regardless of who he is talking about. Will he do the same with Mary? How many years is enough to him? They are will be in recovery for the rest of their lives. If he as the magic pill for the magic number of years of sobriety then pass it along. GEEZ! What a cruel person.
If he is not supportive of Jennifer (including other friends supporting Jennifer ehm “Tiny” – won’t watch any of his films ever again, talk about insecure and all out JERK) then he is NOT supportive of Mary. Make Mary’s life easier and support Jennifer.
I just adore Mary. It pains me to see her with David. OH! AND IT’S NOT YOUR HOUSE TINY, YOU DON’T HAVE TO LIKE HOW JENNIFER SPEAKS IN IT…..BESIDES SHE WAS NOT BEING RUDE.
*sigh*
Jennifer, you were great! I love these guys, but I was really upset with them. Steven should have had to sit his !#%#+#%^*!($)%@ in jail for awhile, and the girls complaining, OMG. YES, he needed to be arrested. I’m frustrated, because my son is an addict and he is sitting in jail until a bed in a long term facility is available to him. You all would have it much worse in the real world.
Hi guys I work at walmart in Springville utah Seth & his family have come in to the store . I get and understand durg.my oldest daughter has lost all of he children to drugs or my sweet g.babies have been born drug addicted it brakes my heart. I wish Seth would have gone throught my line { I’m a cashier} I promise he would have had a good clean old friend and so would his sweet wife.I’ll bet he going through A divorce oh boy I really wish he and I had met he might not be in rehab. again or still. He and Mary are some of my very fovrite people, the show is great good luck to all of you.
Hi Jennifer!!! I hope you remember me,,,I’m your Uncle Ruben’s ex-girlfriend, Linda,,, I was so shocked and surprised to see you on the show,,,, I think you are doing a wonderful job, and I am very proud of you!!!! I was wondering how your uncle Ruben is doing? I haven’t seen or heard from him in a few years, I just want to know if he’s okay? I hope to hear from you, and I wish you all the best!!! Love Linda!
Hi Jen,
I don’t know if you remember me. I met you last year at Los Encinas at a meeting you spoke at. That was last Oct. I was the nutritionist who wanted to help you get that last little layer off you. I’m doing great! My Mom amd Dad both died about 6 months ago and boy my outlook on life is way different and I love it. I miss them but they taught me [ plus all the other help] that I’am allowed to have a normal life just like anyone as long as I do what I’m should be doing. Anyway I know you must have about a million thing’s on you’re mind [ and I know that] but just wanted to say you look great! I wanted you to know that I’m still here[and I don't mean just alive!] and if you ever wanted to hook up and loose the rest of the weight I’m here and would love to help! You look awesome now, looks like you took off another 15-20lbs. You know i think you’re great and lots of other people do to! Some people don’t relize that you actually have the harder of any job! Just like you told me the real work start’s when you get out of rehab! How true and right you were! If you want to get together or even just talk my # is 818 726-6623 and my e mail is insight2fitness@yahoo.com Lot’s of love–you’re awesome–Allyson Feinman a.k.a. the nutritionist
I lived in a sober house for a while, and we had a similar situation where someone was using in the house, but the end result was WAY different- the guy wound up overdosing in the bathroom, and we watched him die while EMS worked on him- he was 27 yrs. old. So do I think Jen made the right choice? HELL YES! She had Steven’s health and safety, as well as every one else in the house in mind when she made her decision, which must have been a hard one to make. We all love Steven, and wish him the best, but there comes a time when being lenient could cost someone their life! R.I.P Petey!
Hey Jen… I’m 18 years sober out here in Pasadena. You did precisely what you needed to do, to ensure the safety of the rest of the clients in the house. I would have backed you up for not letting him back in after the first day. It was clear he was not ‘done’. You probably saved his life.
3 strike rule tho… I dunno. I have a one-warning then out rule. Boundaries are just that…boundaries, Not lines in the sand that you can cross over, but a wall. But more so in your case, you are protecting the lives of your clients remaining in the house.
Seth … doesn’t look like he’s done yet. Mary either. And yeah…most of Mary’s &@$`&#&_^)@#@^+ ociates are not supporting her sobriety. People Places Things… I learned that early on, did they hear it? I’ll pray for them both
Rodney… gets it. Thank God.
how do you become a ex-addict.steven should not have been admitted in the first place.what about required aa/na meetings instead of hollywood clubs.the snake (seth) knew he was breaking curfew but could care less.amry wants to drink and david is no help.nikki leaves in the past and will screw up unless she gets medical help.
I wanted to post a comment to Rodney King, Rodney, I’m praying for your sobriety everyday. I want you to survive. You have been through a lot and you deserve everything good. God bless you and your fiancé and your daughters. Please Please choose to live a life above the influence. I want to see you and your family prosper. Nancy
PS…Nikki please get better you have such a beautiful voice.
jennifer i think you are doing a great job. i am trying ON MY OWN to be clean and sober, i am soooo alone. i really get what you are doing, and with time i think that the people in sober house will realize that. you can only help those who want to help themselves, they don’t realize how lucky they are to have dr. drew and yourself and all the others. Walk a while in my shoes!! ha ha. going it alone is torture. good luck and god speed.
Jen, Keep your head up. One minor bump for Steven is for the safety of the rest of your clients. I was in a relationship with a heroin addict, and watching Steven trying to walk down the stairs and out the door made me sick just watching it, it reminded me of my ex and how he acted.And being the person you are, you can’t save everybody, I found that out too. And to answer your question about if you did the right thing, you have to keep the best interest of the house, never second guess yourself. All you can do is hope that he will bottom out and realize that he is hurting everyone. Your doing a great job.
Steven continues to disappoint everyone who cares about him. I hope that when they show him the footage from last night he is sober enough to see what an a– he was being to Jen. On Celebrity Rehab he was my favorite person to watch – that smile is contagious and I thought he was so sweet and funny and he was! But he was also sober, so Steven – please look at yourself when they show you those videos (already done, I know) and get back to the “real” you. Then I heard from a friend that you were playing in Vegas last week with a band called “Sin City…(something)” and drinking all night. Please – don’t kill yourself. And Rodney – keep it up, big guy! I think you are absolutely an amazing person!
Jennifer you are wonderful! I just saw you and Dr. Drew on The Tyra Banks Show tonight and was thrilled to see how great you looked! I think you are doing an excellent job in running your facility, btw, and it bothers me to see anyone give you grief about enforcing the simple guidelines. If you don’t mind my asking, how did you lose the weight? I didn’t think you were heavy to begin with, but when I saw you on Tyra tonight, I did a double take! Was it difficult to take off?
Jen,I think you did the only right thing there was to do with Steven.Your job is to run the sober house and make sure the other residents are safe as well. Not to mention your own sobriety. You can’t keep anyone sober all you can do is give them the opportunity.
They need to learn that they as individuals have to be accountable for thier own actions.You also have to keep in mind your own program and do what you have to for your own soberiety.Bless you for the opportunity you are giving them but it is thier own recovery that they have to focus on.
It seems like you have a great friend in Will,he seems to want what is best for both you and him to stay sober.
Keep up the good work.
I disagree that calling the police was the right action. Steven could have been escorted to the hospital by staff. The police should never get involved unless someone is REALLY hurt, or the situation is severe. They just complicate things and people’s lives can be ruined. Steven had a stash that the police found so now he will have a heroin charge. That does nothing positive for anyone. You did the absolute wrong thing by calling the police. How would you feel if someone did that to you? It scars your record. I know, I cant get a job because of a charge I have that gave me a felony. Its ruined my life. There are only a few scenarios where the police should be involved. Very, very poor decision Jennifer. I am also a recovering heroin addict, and know what its like to use,quit, and be in treatment. You’ve only been clean for a few years. You shouldn’t be running a sober living facility! that’s a fact!
OK how come no one has commented on the fact that Jen called Steven’s friends and wife FIRST and no one came to get Steven to prevent him going to jail. They kept saying “I’ll call you back in 5 minutes” yeah, they didn’t. I don’t think Jen had a choice but to call the cops.
AND WTF about Mary’s “boyfried”, isn’t he the loser from “Date my Ex” ?
Hopefully these people figure out they need serious help.
idk, 2.5 weeks of Treatment is not enough. I watch the “show” and can see they are not ready to even be alone yet, certianly not ready for a 1/2 way house. Going to the Club is a stupid thing to to do. Different playgrounds different playmates is the only way to get and stay sober. I wish them all luck, but I doubt of any of them is going to be able to get and stay sober, at least not this time. I’ve been clean for 20 years.
I completely agree with Jenn calling the cops. It really upsets me that she was having to contend with the other housemates condemning her for it. Do they not realize why they are there? They all say the want to get sober and agree that what they need is structure but when someone blatently uses then becomes violent and abusive they get upset with the person that deals with it the only way they could for THEIR benefit. Nikki and Amber really need a rude awakening at what really happens in the world of sobriety and what happens when you don’t follow the rules. They chose this path and now they have to deal with it, but they don’t need to come down on Jenn when she’s already doing a good job of it by herself. I really respect her for keeping her cool and not taking any of what they said personal. I hope they all get clean and can live a good life but I really doubt it for everyone but Rodney, he’s doing a great job and I wish him all the best with his family and future.
oh yeah. Jennifer you did the right thing, calling the cops. Who the hell does he think he is? The rest take a clear look, Stephen did not have any of your best interest at heart. He brought and used drugs in a place that should have been safe for the rest of you. That’s an addict, all about them. The hell with the rest of ya. I know from the news that Stephen has been sentenced to a year in patient at a treatment program. That is what he needs.
this show is very helpful to me.
i came home last night wanting to use so bad, turned the tv on and saw will talking to seth about his addiction. that alone helped me to get through one more day of being sober. 10 years of being an addict and getting clean is not easy….
i’ve made it a week so far,and can only take it a day at a time. yesterday was extremely hard for me, but i won’t give up….
Jennifer did the right thing, and it should have gone a step futher. Steven should NOT have been bailed out, he should have had to face the full consequences of his actions. They probably would have released him within a day or so anyway. By bailing him out they insulated him from the consequences of his actions and prolonged his inability to full accept responsibility for his behavior.
Jennifer you did the right thing.
Jennifer: Sorry – you really went overboard with the “I am disappointed” routine with Seth. Yes, he broke rules and there should be consequences. However, your lack of trust in him and disappointment are your issues and you should have taken a moment alone to sort out your “stuff” versus Seth’s actions. You owe him an apology for going overboard there….and you should have made it abundantly clear that Seth had reason to be proud of himself for having the strength to leave the group – find a friend and indulge in a sober activity without your help. Is that not the goal here? And this was about Seth’s recovery – not yours from past hurts….
You’re doing great Jennifer. Keep your chin up!
Jennifer,
I believe you did the right thing but I am confused about one thing….one the 1st episode you told the residents they had a 3 strike and you are out policy yet with Steven (understandingly) it was 2, with Seth allowing him to stay was discussed. I am just thinking the residents feel unsure about their boundaries and as a recovering addict you know how we like to test those boundaries..LOL If their truly is a 3 strike policy maybe you should describe to them what the exceptions are to the rule ie. what can lead to zero tolerance with a relapse. Maybe this would help?
First and most important… Do you honestly believe you are even qualified for this responsibility? You have not been clean for very long and your remark of ‘These people will eat me alive”.. honestly? really? are you serious? You have no business running a sober house for ANY recovering addict. Worried that the houseguests (ie.. junkies)will not agree with your decision? Novice mistake- You are there to keep everyone safe and in a drug free environment- As far as I can tell you have already failed. No addict gets 3 strikes. You are either clean or not and if you are not you DO NOT live in a sober living facility jeopardizing others recovery.
Geez… get with it or get someone qualified. My opinion of Dr Drew just went through the floor. Surely, he has better education if not sense to see that you are totally UNQUALIFIED.
i think jen is doing the best she can.i think is being sober is starting al over again.she is having to watching teen.having to teach responsiblity.there are consiquines to each choice we make.steven made a poor choice.so now he has to face the consiquines.jen was just thinking of her and everyone safety.so i support her.and it is a job to try to help peaple stay clean and sober.they have to learn a new way to live.
jenn calling the police was the smartest thing done so far… as much as i love steven adler, my heart broke watching him fall apart. i still have hope he will return to earth and become the incredible musician he once was. jenn stay strong.
Comment on the police being called to pick up Steven: Didn’t Jennifer call his wife and his best friend to let them know exactly what the situation was and the possible resolutions, including calling the police because of his lack of cooperation and ability to be rational. His friend said he could not go to his house, his wife said she would discuss with friends and family and get back to Jen. Several hours passed before the police were called, telling me that Steven’s family and friends felt the same way. There was nothing they could do for him at that point. Weather he went home or stayed at Sober House he was putting every one in jeopardy and in an unsafe situation,(Everybody Has the right to lay their head down at night and feel safe and secure, HE WAS BEING TOTALLY UNPREDICTABLE) forcing once again for others to feel responsible for him rather than hold himself accountable for his bad choices. If Steven had gone to sleep in the house and died of an over dose, or left the house when no one was looking or just not realizing he was(he couldn’t find his own bedroom) it would have been everybody else’s fault. Not to mention the staff did offer to take him to rehab/detox and he said he wasn’t going. Who knows how much heroin he had stashed, where and how much he had been using. It is Sober House not Detox House. However, I do think it is interesting that once the police got to Sober House and arrested him, he did not seem to be uncooperative with the police as he had been with Wil and Jen. Leading me to believe that he thinks the Sober House rules don’t apply to him and he can do what he wants with no consequences.
Steven deserves to be thrown out of sober living. I can’t believe he was complaining about Jen being in his face. He showed up high and has pretty much stayed high for his entire stay. He like most addicts is selfish and self preservationist. He cares about noone around him and must go to save the others.
Wow, finally Dr Drew has a show that really looks like recovery. The other show was ridiculous and phoney tabloidesk. Thank god we don’t have to see that Jeff guy anymore!
Jennifer is Amazing and beautiful- she is one strong lady to put up with all this, just to try and help people get back to life- you go girl!
Too bad the show as more worried about ratings then helping someone- or woulda left Steve in jail- like how anyone else would have treated- where he belonged.
what is going on, the saddest thing i have seen in a while watching the abuse of stephen. no one helping him, letting him wander around high out of his mind. jennifer you are an instigator of hate, you are a horrible person. what is with your stupid smile all the time? stephen did nothing to you, you chased him around tormenting him. what is your problem. you are there to help them not attack them until they respond. even tiny lister, you thought you could aggress this man for no reason? you need a shrink to help you with your passive aggressive tendencies. clearly you are still jonesing for it, you and that big bouncer idiot. help them not hurt them, they need a special person to help them and it is not you. you should work at the DMV or the tow yard. Doctor Drew, if you are a doctor, you to should be ashamed, i thought you were a good person, find another sober house that will take care of the people in need, not abusive ex junkies bent on hurting. jennifer is ugly inside and out. stephen we love you, we hope for your recovery. keep on drumming brother. love to all of you.
Jennifer’s Beauty
It may hurt Jennifer’s feelings (I hope not), but I had no idea who she was. On the outside, she is definitely one of the prettiest ladies I’ve ever seen. It’s hard to tell from the television show alone but she is just as beautiful on the inside. Her caring and love for others who are not taking sober living seriously is truly beauty from within. It’s hard to beat a lady that’s beautiful inside and out. Then when I saw her with a Yorkie, she got my heart all together. I just had to have my 17 year old yorkie (Cricket) put to sleep–his little stub of a tale wagging as I held and pet him. I’m already looking for another, but since Jennifer has one, I would be happy to share hers with her. I wish there was a way to contact her. I don’t want to be on or near a camera, but would love to have dinner with her.
did steven actually hit you? or hurt you? i dont remember seeing that in the last episode…
I am a recovered addict and I am very proud of what jennier did.During my addiction I did many things I should have been jailed for and always got away with them making me feel I was not as bad as I really was.We addicts have to give up our selfishness and self-centeredness or we will die,A night in jail is a very small price to for freedom from addiction.Also a note to Rodney you are a true inspiration keep doing the next right thing.
I THINK DR.DREW IA A DISGRACE TO THE WHOLE RECOVERY COMMUNITY, OR ANYONE WHO IS SERIOUS ABOUT RECOVERY. WHERE DID HE GET HIS DEGREE IN A CRACKER JACK BOX? HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT ADDICTION AND HOW TO REALLY TEACH SOMEONE TO STAY CLEAN. HE IS USING THESE PEOPLE TO BECOME FAMOUS AND SHOULD BE STRUNG UP BY HIS FEET AND BURNT WITH LIT CIGARETTES!!!
aloha jennifer,
first off want to commend you for the job you are trying to do. watch the show and it seems everyone makes excuses for the bad behavior of others. especially steven adler.
really respect you, jennifer and what you are trying to do to get everyone to commit to helping themselves and understanding that there must be some order in their lives. it seems even after counseling with dr. drew that noone thinks they have a problem with alcohol or drugs. or that it’s only the drugs that are a problem.
as soon as they had any free time most of them wanted to go clubbing.
want to commend rodney king also for his decision to avoid any temptations and to stay with jennifer and co.
rodney really seems to be serious and committed to getting sober and wish him the best.
and jennifer please keep up the good work you are trying to do. know it must be so difficult for you to be the “bad person” in the eyes of your peers but want you to know that i think you are really the good person who is trying to do what you know is right. and that is what it really comes down to is how strong you can be in the face of adversity.
you really have been an example to everyone in sober house but most of the people there don’t appreciate you because they aren’t willing to admit to their own problems.
jennifer, please stay strong and committed because you will make a difference in the long run.
aloha and best of wishes to you and yours in your commitment to sobriety!
take care,
Hi Jennifer,
As a follower of Celeb – Rehab and now of Sober House I am really pulling for all of these guys to get through and stay clean. I think what you had to do would have been difficult for anyone but you did it and you probably saved Stevens life. Hopefully with just a little time the housemates will see it that way also. I am just a housewife in a tiny little town in Mass. but I back your choice 100%. Keep up the good work.
Sincerely,
Kathleen
You go Jenn-girl!!! They are all lucky they are there, because none of them, well maybe Rodney, wouldn’t make it in a “Real” Rehab or Sober Living house anywhere on the Planet. With over 13 years clean and trying to work a program of recovery the best I can say is its the best entertainment on TV. And unfortunatley for the clients thats all it is. if they are serious about getting it together. Pretty much total insanity at best. Steven would have been gone from jump street when he “Choose” to show up loaded and holding. Dr. Drew should have stood behind his staff, When he didn’t Jenn’s authority was put in question and lost from that point on. A BBQ with 5 guest each, half of which shouldn’t have been let on the property to begin with ? where did that come from ? Only in Hollywood. Mary’s smartass buddies would have been told to hit the road, then the Police called on them. Tiny was a real man standing up to Jenn, what a ^!&(&!~`+!(~#%# hole. Mr David and his joke’s about vodka and where he hid the crack would be barred from the property too. Someone needs to remind Mary this is a Sober Living house not a strip joint and get some clothes on. I fail to see her _#&`(+^@^#@(`_@ s hanging out being conducive to anyone’s recovery. Seth give me a break. Anyone that relapse’s on the roof of a Rehab is in need of king size attention. They have giving you your attention, now just go on your mary way and play your games somewhere eles before someone thats with you ends up dead from your stupidity. Nikki, ya want to go home so you can drink a few beers, Go… don’t let the door hit ya in the ^!&(&!~`+!(~#%# Most of these celebrities need to go get some more pain, cause its pretty clear they are not ready for recovery, sure hope they don’t #((@(%^$+^*!)_!) it up for someone eles that does while they are playing there little games.
We love you Will!! This is Julie G. PRC year ago. Thanks for all you do for us.
Jennifer, you need a big hug! It’s hard doing the right thing, especially when you feel like the group is against you. I hope everyone respects the decision you had to make. You’re an inspiration!!!
I was very upset that Jennifer called the police. Also, her comment on the last show that when the soberhouse residents come home their problems become hers…. Well, that’s her job. She choses that job and yes, their problems will be hers…. She needs to deal with reality…. She did not need to call the police as steven didn’t hurt anyone…. except himself. Or, they should have searched him to make sure he would not get in trouble and only be taken to jail to sober up… I dont think she has any business being in this job at all!!!!
Yeah right you think that they should have searched steven and taken his drugs. Well if anything will enduce violence from Steven that would be it. At most she should have said Steven the police are coming to give you a ride to las encinas and he would have been able to hide the drugs. Again though the big fear was that steven would disapear on the streets and get hurt so if they had told him the police were coming he would have run. They asked him to leave repeatedly and he refused.CJ quit blaming Jen for everything you couldnt handle her job you sound like an enabler.
I have 5 years and one thing I relize by watching this show is that Jen sure does think she knows more then everyone else. Though, her job is hard, she needs to chill and relize therre is no difference between her and anyone else in that house. Unless she is the sponsor she needs to chill. I lived in a “sober house” when I first got clean and my sponsor was the one with a right to tell me what to do. All she is, is a house mom, big difference. i think what she is doing is excellent and beleive she is helping people but maybe she needs to start working her porgram more instead of everyone elses. You never hear about her program and her sobreity. Mine is still a daily struggle, maybe she needs to worry about herself more then everyone else.
Jennifer I watched sober house episode 3 and I feel you did the right thing by calling the police. You didn’t call because you were being mean you called for the safety of yourself and the others in the house. Hopefully this will help Steven towards his recovery and who know you may have saved his life that night. If you did the right thing then you have nothing to feel wrong about. In your heart and with your life experiences you know what you did was a good thing for all. Dry your tears and keep your heart pure. God Bless!
This stuff is great entertainment if you’re a drooling voyeur. If you enjoy wallowing in the misery of others and your personal drama isn’t interesting enough, this is the show for you. “Dr. Drew” should be ashamed – no one is profiting here except him and VH1. What addict serious about recovery would agree to cameras recording every quivering moment? These so-called celebrities are hopeless has beens who will do anything to be seen, no matter what the circumstances. As they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity. To quote another celeb: “Father forgive them for they know not what they do”. In the good doctor’s case, he knows exactly what he’s doing and for him there is no excuse at all.
I think Jen is a great ‘mother house’ and I hope after her experience dealing with these crazy celebs doesn’t drive her nuts. Jen, stick to your guns and don’t be afraid to tell Dr. Drew he’s wrong. He needs to step it up.
I love that Andy ^#`_@+~+*)!__#^$ is there getting the help he needs. Andy I love you and I will be praying that you get better. I continue to pray for all of yous, including Dr Drew and Jennifer.
God Bless.
Jennifer, Please put some clothes on. It would legitimize you. No one needs to see so much skin leave something to be imagined. Hollywood or not classy is class.
I just finished watching episode 3 of Sober House. This show makes me so sad. To see such fortunate people hurt themselves and everyone around them is heartbreaking. A model, singers, actors, musicians….what a chance in life. Steven Adler is my ex-husband in cognito.This is what draws me to the show. Thankfully through counseling and my own healing, “I get it now”!! Its a real disease and I wish I had the chance to help others who don’t “get it”! To all of us who are on or who were on the receiving end of an addict, be strong, be educated, be well! Jennifer D. peace
How do you get past the DT’s? Someone help…I’m hooked on pills, and when I can’t get that, it coke, crack, alcohol. I used to be outgoing and energetic,now I just try to get through the day. I have a daughter 11 yrs, she deserves much better!!!!!
Jennifer G. is a beautiful woman for taking this task on. I wish her much luck.
It is not the job of a house leader to “search” people. Should the house leader get stuck with a needle searching someone, I think that everyone would be singing a different tune. It would have been negligent to let Steven go on the way he was, Steven was clearly at risk of overdosing on heroin. Steven should be responsible for Steven.
I want to say to Jenn that I admire her courage for putting herself in the position of being a house mother to all these spoiled addicts. I am 19 years sober and I could NOT do it. Jenn, you are a beautiful woman and I just want to say that I am praying for you to stay strong. I heard you say that you need to develop thicker skin. I do not think you need to take the verbal and physical abuse. I hope you are taking care of yourself. Keep the faith, Sistah Girl!
I thought I saw bit of flirting going on from jennifer with andy, quit it, you are there to be a mentor. One other thing wear a bit more clothes jennifer.
I feel sorry for Will & Jen who have to try and defend themselves! Shame on anyone blaming them for calling the cops, he was abusive, could have od’, and jeopardized everybody elses sobriety! I know if anyone would have brought in heroin when I was newly in recovery, I would have joined them! Thank God that didn’t happen to me. Shame on him for doing it, and shame on Dr. Drew for bailing him out of jail. Some people don’t get it until they really hit bottom. If they realize everyone is so fed up they won’t even get them out of jail, they have fewer options, and realize that they are at the end of the line. His own family didn’t want to help Jen because even they knew this. I want to say I’m proud of Rodney, he is the only one who is serious here. I have hope for Amber, she already does have insight on her emotional development, learning how to get it & developing self esteem takes time. I really feel for her and hope she can realize how precious she is, and not allow men to use her so despicably. Not dating for a year really IS a good thing.
Steve Adler needs to spend a lengthy time in jail, and will upon his conviction of a controlled substance. His behavior at the sober house on the day of his arrest was unacceptable, life threatening, dangerous. He made the decision to use drug and to break the house rules while straight. Upon entering sober house Adler had no intention of following house rules, and was high hours upon entering. Upon observation Adler denied then became threatening to staff. Jen was ~_&_+!&#@%(%+_~ aulted both verbally and physically and was given no option but to protect herself and the other residents. Adler being on his probably 20th rehab chance has no respect for himself, or the other residents and their sobriety. I have no doubt that Steve Adler will again relapse and I’ll probably be reading about him in the obituaries at some point. Until Adler stops being caudaled by those around him he will continue to behave in exactly the same manner. I hope his upcoming stint in the California Department of Correction will show him the reality of his situation.
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This was a mind blowing episode and so shocking it had me really upset. Steven needs to be locked up for at least a year or death will certainly find him. I know because thats what it took for me and the people who truely loved me helped put me there. I was in prison 3 yr. 8 months, got out,went to treatment for 6 months and chose to stay almost another year. Ive been clean almost 3 years since and love life. Steven is going to die if he isnt locked up and Seth will Probably follow suit. Sometimes it takes pure hell to find happiness!
i am constantly praying for all of you in sober house!
It breaks my heart to look in the eyes of Seth Binzer and see the pain and sadness there…….someone give that man a huge hug for me please!!!!
Keep up the good work all of you and i will keep praying
Jen should not be wearing short shorts and low tops. You have cow thighs and fat hanging from your belly. Purely disgusting. People don’t want to see your fat #!*%@_#!+_)@^~~ Your filthy mouth should be washed out with lye soap. You are a bad example as a house mother. Quit trying to be a celebrity and get a life. What a pig.
You didn’t know he’d have drugs on him? You said “there’s a male here who’s in possession of heroin” when you made the 911 call. So is that in the rule book you handed out? If you use we’ll have you arrested?