“If somebody else had done that before I did, I would have never been like, ‘Oh yeah, I’ll take their sloppy seconds.’ But I got in there first, so whatever!” A Basement Affair‘s first-runner-up tells us on her much-discussed tryst with Frank. Below “chatty” Cathy, lives up to her name, dishing the dirt on her portrayal, Frank’s bedside manner and her relationship with Kerry.
What did you think about your portrayal?
I actually feel like they did a pretty good job portraying the person that I am. I don’t know if you know, but I was on another show before this [I Survived a Japanese Game Show], and I feel like I was very one-dimensional on that show. On this show, I was really hoping they would make me a complete character, and I feel like I did go through this whole transformation on screen. I kind of start off as the aggressive one, always fighting with Frank, but once I get closer to Frank, I soften up. That’s typical me. I think it was a good representation of who I am overall. I’m kind of crazy at times, and I do drink a lot, and I am a sexual person.
So you weren’t upset that such a big deal was made about the fact that you slept with Frank?
At times I was kind of annoyed by it, but you have to keep things in consideration. I’m a real person. I just kind of put it all out there, and for people who respect that, or tell me that they respect that, I appreciate it. Don’t act like you don’t do that s*** in your everyday life. People act so holier than thou just because they’re not on national television. It got to the point that I didn’t even care because at least I was myself. I wasn’t trying to play a character to get airtime and s***.
What about the toll it took on your relationship with Kerry? The thing that stuck out was that when you were telling her about it, she looked really upset. But you kept talking.
I have a problem where I say way too much sometimes. I was really, really drunk and I know they didn’t really show that, and this s*** was all coming out. I felt that she was more mad at him than she was at me, though. I know on the show it comes across that she’s obviously upset at me, but she really was mad at Frank because he was the one lying about it. I never told her, “No this did not happen.” It was just sort of assumed that it didn’t. Obviously she got over it. If somebody else had done that before I did, I would have never been like, “Oh yeah, I’ll take their sloppy seconds.” But I got in there first, so whatever!
When it came out and you confirmed it, it seemed like everybody had gotten the idea that it had happened via Melissa. It was weird that such a big deal was made about what everyone already knew.
At first Kerry assumed, “Melissa’s full of s***, because if it happened Cathy would tell me. She’s my best friend in the house.” I think overall, people maybe had it in their heads, but after I made a big deal about being pissed off with Melissa saying s***, I think people were thrown off. People had their assumptions, but ultimately, they were like, “Well, what are we supposed to do about it? We can kick ourselves off the show, or we can stand our ground and not do anything after that.”
I talked to Kerry about this, and she said that your relationship today is stronger than ever.
Oh yeah, we’re so close. I don’t think that just because Frank chose her over me, it doesn’t mean we can’t be friends. I was actually hoping to be friends with Frank, too. At that moment when I was eliminated it was like, “Oooh, OK. Things are not going to be the way I thought they were going to be.” I thought we had become good friends, but then when it came down to elimination time it was like, “Oh wow. I have a feeling that things are not going to be the same anymore. He’s going to talk to Kerry and they’re not going to want to talk to me anymore, and it’s going to be awkward, blah blah blah.” I knew I wasn’t going to win, though.
Because of the sex?
I really think that it was just that the kind of person Kerry comes across as is this perfect princess. I don’t want to say that she wasn’t real on the show, but there was a lot that she didn’t reveal. I put it all out there. I’m very love-it-or-hate-it/take-it-or-leave-it. Because I expose my flaws, there’s a lot more that he could be unsureabout. I will say that what happened between us was the most real thing that happened in the house, because I didn’t even go on dates with him but we made time. Every moment we spent together was because we tried.
I know this may venture into overly personal territory, but how was sex with Frank?
Um, it was fun. He’s crazy. I have to say, I was definitely amused by the whole “Three minutes later” title on the screen. I got like a zillion questions, “Oh my god, is Frank a one minute man?” No, he’s not. He’s fun because he’s crazy. But I like that.
Your getting extremely drunk was an early highlight of the season.
That was really funny. The bonus clips were way funnier. I was kind of scared for that episode because it was the second one, and my parents were going to see this. There have been quite a few times where I’ve been carried into the house, or woken up off of the bathroom floor, crawling. I kind of have a reputation for that, so I knew my mom was going to be real angry. But then I was like, “Oh god, wait tilll she sees a few episodes in! The drunken thing is going to be like a walk in the park.”
Did you get flack from your parents for your on-screen antics?
My mom wasn’t really happy with that, and my dad never really comments on anything. He’s just in his own little world. I think a lot of people were like, “Oh my god, that’s so f***ing funny, because it’s so typical Cathy.”
Your dad is obviously a very mysterious figure. Can you shed any light on who he is and what he does, or are you keeping that a secret still?
Well honestly, I’m sure he would be pretty mad at me if I said anything about where he works or anything. But just with this kind of show, I’m sure he wants absolutely nothing to do with it, because it’s for VH1, and it’s a dating show, and I get drunk and I’m doing all of this crazy s***. And also, I think they’re proud of me for going after what I want, but at the same time, on the show I come across as…whatever I come across as. And people don’t realize that I am actually really smart. I graduated from college early. I was in all AP classes throughout my whole life, and it’s just the way that I come across, I don’t throw that in peoples’ faces. My parents expected me to have some super great job where I’m making six figures by now, and I’m only 23. They would rather me be pursuing a career rather than this kind of stuff. I’m doing what I want, but they didn’t really want to be associated with it.
When you were eliminated, you said that there are so many things I wanted to say to him. Could you think of any other things that you would have wanted to say?
The things I would have said [would probably have been] about how he made me feel. I did start to care about him. I’m not a mushy person, though. I really do think that being on the show actually helped me. I do believe in fate, and I believe that everybody comes into my life for a reason. I don’t always figure it out right away, but I figure it out later on. Before our last date, I was in my room, and the only paper I had were my STD awareness facts they gave me at the beginning of the show. I’m writing on it all of the things that I need to touch on the next day when I hang out with him. Like, “Oh, you should pick me for this reason, this reason and this reason.” But then I thought, “Why should I even do this? I know he’s not going to pick me, it doesn’t matter.”
How did the show help you?
I really did like Frank. I know a lot of times I come across as insincere because I do have this wall up. And he broke it down and saw a lot more of my personality. Underneath everything, I was just…girly, I guess, and how you get when you like somebody and care about somebody. So I feel like, overall, I always have a problem revealing my sensitive side to people, because I don’t want people to think of me as weak. But at the end of it I thought, “That doesn’t make me weak, that makes me a f***ing person!” I feel like he definitely did make me feel like I could open up to people and be myself.
Have you talked to Frank since the show?
Yeah. He called me a couple of days after I got home and was like, “Thank you so much for being on the show. I got really, really attached to you and it was a pretty hard decision.” And he pretty much said to me, “You know, these things never work out.” And I’m like, “Yeah, I knew that!” But at the same time he had a lot of people there who were invested in this. And I really think that he was trying to be as invested as everyone else. He’s not a bad person. He’s confused, he doesn’t know what he wants. But he said, “Oh, I really liked you, blah blah blah.” And I pretty much acted like, whatever. I don’t know, it did feel a little weird. I wanted to still be friends with him and Kerry, but I just didn’t know if it was going to work out. He did text me a few times: “Just saw a preview of the show with us kissing and it made me think of you, haha.” I have no romantic interest in him, but I do feel like we can talk and be friendly. And that’s how I wanted it. I mean, you spend an entire month with someone, and you become close to them. And I felt like I was losing a friend at the end of that, which is really s***ty, because we were so close. I was on every episode. I was there the whole f***ing time. And it was just over like that. I think that I’m probably someone who would be a better friend to him. He’s talked to me about Kerry before, and stuff, but he would still feel uncomfortable if he were in the same room with both of us. Because secretly, he still might be trying to mack it, you know what I mean?
Does he have a shot?
Honestly? If I didn’t go through this process with Kerry, and it wasn’t like Kerry and I at the end, maybe…not romantically, but physically. Maybe. But at this point, no. Kerry is my really good friend and it’s not even worth it to me. I don’t want things to be weird with Kerry.
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