Tough Talk From Steve Ward – Tough Love Couples Finale



Mother-and-son Master Matchmakers JoAnn and Steve Ward are back for a whole new type of Tough Love. As always, Steve will be checking in with weekly commentary on each episode via this blog. Below, he talks about the show’s finale/wedding special with his final thoughts on the couples…

The biggest surprise of the episode: Dustin and Courtney’s engagement. What’d you think about it?

I thought, “Good for him!” I was rehearsing the weddings when that went down. Me and my mom were on a golf cart back to our hotel, back to our room getting ready for the next thing that we have to do, and he has this s***-eating grin on his face as he’s walking towards us. We’re like, “What happened?” and he’s like “She said yes.” We were like “Oh, good for you!” We knew he was going to do it, we just weren’t around when it took place. What you see on the TV happened for the first time. It was authentic, it was real.

I would have never predicted that would have happened with all the people. They left the show broken up.

I’m telling you Rich, I walked away from the boot camp telling myself “You couldn’t even write this s***.” You can’t. You can’t write it, it’s too good.

What about Ryan and Axelle? They were apparently reuniting for the first time on camera, but they were awfully civil to each other.

Yeah. I think Ryan was less than pleased with everything, especially after seeing himself on TV.

Is it weird that he came back, in retrospect?

No, we invited everybody back. We wanted everybody to be there. Everybody was a part of the experience. They didn’t come out together; they weren’t on the same flight. It was the end of the boot camp, and we had fun celebrating with everyone.

Give me your overall thoughts on marrying Dennis and Simone. It seemed like a very lovely ceremony. Maybe that was expected, but it was lovely all the same.

It was a privilege and an honor to marry both of them, both couples. They just did an outstanding job. The doves and the confetti and the fireworks…it was really quite a thing to do. And let alone the vacation and the money? I mean, who knew?

Did the actual shooting go down as it was edited? Were the two weddings back-to-back?

Yep, back-to-back, straight up.

That seems like a lot for you.

It was. I also read them a poem. I read each of them a poem that wasn’t aired. I read Dennis and Simone a poem about love, and I read Mario and Christina a poem about marriage. Both poems written by Khalil Gibran from The Prophet. I picked those poems because I felt they were very meaningful to both couples. I took it very seriously.

The way the episode unfolded, I thought we were being set up for a surprise, since Mario and Christina so often talked about their families not coming. In the end, their families really didn’t show up. What did you think of that?

Well, remember the state of these relationships before they left for boot camp. Also don’t forget the fact that TV time and production time are two different worlds. So to go on a show when you’re so dysfunctional, then a few weeks later go, “Come and watch us get married!” They’re like “What? Hold the phone…”

Where are their families with them now? Have they accepted the fact that they’re married?

Yes. They sent a nice wedding gift. That said a lot. When they were asking them to come out and be a part of it, I don’t think any of the episodes had aired yet, so I don’t think they knew what they were in store for. If anything had aired, it was definitely the very beginning, when all their problems were being highlighted. I’m sure they weren’t encouraged by the first few episodes. By the time the decision had been made, they hadn’t seen any of the progress they have been making. I can understand why they’d want to object. But Dennis’ mom was there, she came around, right? Check that out.

Are Dennis and Simone are doing well?

Yeah, from what I understand. I really haven’t talked to them much since the wedding. But from what I’ve heard they’re doing very well.

Dustin and Courtney are still engaged?

Yes they are.

And how about Danielle and Pawel?

I think they’re the couple that will be engaged for 10 years. I don’t think they’re any closer to setting a wedding date, but they’re just as close as they were when the show ended.

So, as the wedding episode suggested, four out of the six original couples are on solid ground.

I think everybody in general was pretty enthusiastic about seeing the show and going home to work on their relationships. What ended up happening was a lot of people ultimately realized what they needed to do to improve their relationship, and I think as a result a lot of people improved from the experience. That’s what was meant to happen. That’s what we were going for. I’m pleased with the results. I remember saying to myself on several occasions, “How are we going to top this? What can we possibly do next time?” and it’s a little tough. What, are people going to expect us to be miracle workers now? If I get another opportunity to do another season of couples, I’m going to focus on people that have had to face significant challenges in life. I wouldn’t mind doing a season of couples who are married and are on the brink of divorce. I mean, people that are already engaged and can’t wait to get to the altar. People who have a lot more at stake.

Do you have any other parting words that you’d like to share?

I don’t know when you’re going to see me again, and I don’t know where, but I assure you I’ll be back. And when I am, you better watch out because I’ll be as tough as I ever was.

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  1. Kelly-Ann says:

    Hi Steve, I just wanted to suggest for your next show that you do a special about teenagers and parent(s), it would be wonderful and may teach some children some kind of obedience and respect. Love your shows by the way!!!!

  2. SkyDude says:

    Wonderful way to end the series. Despite all the cinderella stuff, the show was worth watching just to see the ceremonies. Great stuff!

    Idea for next season: Let your new couples witness one/two of the other couples from this season get married in the season premiere, let them see a goal. And a great way to kick off a season premiere! (heh)

  3. Regina says:

    Will there be another tough love couples show? If so, how can my boyfriend and I apply?!?! I never saw the first season but I sat on the edge of my seat during the second season. I’m sure there are lots of plenty other couples wondering the same thing, but we really want and need the help. Can’t wait to find out how to apply.

  4. ladydmcqueen says:

    Steve & VH1, I love the idea of doing another Tough Love Couples w/couples who are already married and are on the brink of getting divorced. I have quite a few friends who are there and I would love to recommend they apply to the show or even watch the show when it airs. Great Job!!! Looking forward to more!!!

  5. Bianca Ward says:

    Hi Steve,

    I would love to see young couples on your show for next season…because I see and I am a young 19 year who is in love but need to find my way. When you love you love hard regardless like myself and I think it would have high ratings if young couples would be considered on your show. I watch your show all the time and I take in your advice all the time. But keep up the good work you’re doing GREAT! And we also have the same LAST NAME! :)

  6. MRS.COOKS says:


  7. micky says:

    I’m not sure if I missed it but what happened with Heather and Larry?!?!

  8. Cinema says:

    I’d fully support many more tough love or/and Steve and JoAnn shows.

  9. Hailey says:

    Loved the marriage ceremonies. They were both touching and very emotional. Good job Steve.

    My recommendation for the next show:
    Tough Love: Hard Reality.

    It’ll be about couples facing some kind of destructive blows to their relationships even though their both very much in love. Example: One partner has a destructive habit(drugs, alcohol, promiscuity), Their religons don’t mix, One (or both)of the partners are abusive towards the other (whether emotional, physical, mental), Their families hate each other.

    Hope that helps.

  10. Jill says:

    micky asked

    “what happened with Heather and Larry?!?!”

    When they are all sitting there before the weddings they said Heather & Larry weren’t able to get off work. Not sure if thats the real reason but that is what was said.

  11. LeeAnn says:

    I was wondering what happened to Heather and Larry? I didn’t see them on the wedding ep. Did they broke up?

  12. Melly says:

    Sorry for my english,i am european.I watched your show and i am very disappointed.I live in california and shocked to see soo many american young couples getting young married and getting babys,that they can not afford rather emotionally,not financially.There is a great european saying “LOVE GOES THROUGH YOUR STOMACH!!!”.A couple should marry,if they can afford that!!!Marriage is not a game,marriage involve financial responsability.Maybe you should invite Suze Orman to your shows and have a serious talk with her.Maybe then, you will understand the financial aspect of a marriage and not push young coules into a marriage they can not afford.In your place i would not have adviced Mario to marry.I would have adviced him to get an education,a career,a good job,then think at marriage.Mario could NOT afford a marriage and it was a big mistake to get married.You should teach american couples to be responsable,marrriage is a big finacial step.Americans have cars,they can not afford,they have houses,they can not aford,they go into marriages,they can not afford,they get children,they can not afford!!!What about educate them,make them more responsable.Each Pshyhologe in this world could have told you,Mario is not ready for a marriage,Mario can not afford a marriage.Pushing him into a marriage just for your show,i found it absolutely disgusting.Do you have any idea,how devastating a divorce is??and that couple in this age group divorce in a huge percentage??He came to you to advice even on the wedding day!!How irresponsable not to open his eyes.It could ruin his entire life.A divorce is a very traumatic event in the life of a person and i consider Mario not ready for this step and most importante not finacially ready.How can you and your mother sleep night having such a conscious??His parents were right,was too early.Going to this show was a big mistake for him.The show is gone,he will remain in a marriage,he can not afford.We european have one child,2,none,seldom 3.Come to California and see the tragedy,see the reality.Tonnes of young,unhappy families,which can not afford their children,neither emotionally,nor finacially.You should be careful,what you preach in the national tv,tonnes of famillies are influenced from you and you should present the truth,the reality,marriage is a finacial step.Do not sugarcoat hollywoodstyle,present the hard reality,explain these young couple the financial aspect,invite Suze Orman see,how many couples would just be DENIED.America needs to be finally educated,to be more financial responsable and realize marriage means money,big money.Young couple should get an EDUCATION,A CAREER,A JOB FIRST!!How do you and your mother feel,if Mario get divorced some years later??I would feel bad,because you contributed to ruin his life,to push him in this disaster.Under the show circumstances people tend to take decisions,which are not right and feel sorry later.I hope,you will read this email and make you think…and maybe change something in the future!Thanks!!

  13. Santaella says:

    Idea for next season: My husband suggests toughlove married couples at brink of separation. Let us know the results for next season can’t wait.

  14. Monique says:

    Hey Steve, I loved watching the wedding special. I loved the entire season actually!! I think doing a show with couples who are already married is good idea. I would definitely sign up for that show.

  15. Amy johnson says:

    When does the wedding episode air??

  16. brittney says:

    I have a suggestion for the next show, Tough Love Divorce’e. It seems there are a lot of divorced women out there looking for another shot at love.

  17. Jessica says:

    What in the world happened to Heather and Larry???

  18. Monica says:

    I think that the Tough Love Married Couples would be a good idea, I’d LOVE to sign up for that with my husband! So do Heather and Larry end up staying together or what’s up? I heard the part about them not being able to get off work but you know, things can happen…

  19. Southpaw says:

    Steve: I commend you for trying; there’s SO many dysfunctional couples roaming the planet! I don’t watch the show as a rule, but over the long weekend, there was really nothing on so I watched about 4 or 5 hours. With the exception of the couple with the 2 children, none of these couples should be getting married. They’re SO not ready or right for each other for many reasons (most of which is IMMATURITY). That Mario dude is a complete loser. But the GF’s 22…they all want to get married at that age…they think they’re missing out on something. Who marries a 26-yr. old who “saved $300 to get an apt?”. Please. And, the couple who had been together since high school..yuk. Go find someone new and GROW. She accepted his marriage proposal in about, what?…being broken up for about 20 minutes? She didn’t want to marry him..wanted to do other things and then takes the ring! Why? Was it because she couldn’t find anyone new in a week? These people are a bunch of idiots. Please don’t be insulted when I say I won’t watch again. People like the ones on your show make me crazy.

  20. Sidney says:

    this was the best show yet. It emphasizes the importance of mantaining the relationship.
    Tough love couples who are married, great idea!~

    && I think heather and larry broke up because he said 4 out of the 6 are doing well. Everyone was good expect for ryan and excel and heather and larry are the only other ones.

  21. Ria says:

    Steve, love your show and think its great what you and your Mom do. I def like the tough love couples better than the singles… and please tell me… what was the violin song playing during the wedding???? or can anyone tell me?

  22. Ria says:

    Steve, love your show and think its great what you and your Mom do. I def like the tough love couples better than the singles… and please tell me… what was the orchestra playing during the wedding ceremony???? or can anyone tell me?

  23. Michelle says:

    Steve, I was just wondering if you knew when the next season was going to start, or if you have begun casting? I seriously believe that my boyfriend and I would be good candidates. We have been together for seven years, have three children, but still have not been able to make it to the alter! We need some serious help!

  24. Maria says:

    Yes, yes, yes, I want to see married couples on the brink of divorce so people know the result of marrying when your relationship is a mess. Can’t speak for anyone else, but my marriage is in the *)$^)^“~^“*`!~ ter because I was a Courtney/Axelle who married a Ryan!

  25. suzanne says:

    looking for some of the music featured on the show? Anyone know where I might be able to find this?

  26. Karina Peacock says:

    Steve & JoAnn,
    If you ever decide to come and do a show in Australia, please count me in… Been single forever and ready to move on with my life!!!
    Love the show and I love the advice/criticism, some things just need to be said!!!
    All the Best,

  27. CTM says:


  28. CTM says:

    Does anyone know the violin song played during Mario and Christina’s wedding? PLEASE if anyone knows

  29. Nikky says:

    Would love to see on next season newly married couples like myself(3rd marriage for both myself and my husband), who are having issues. It would be wonderful to see the two of you teach them skills to help them to make their marriages work and to help them get past whatever issues they may have.

  30. Elizabeth says:

    Just wanted to say congrats!!! Ill be prayin for all of ya! Im soo happy to the couple who got married! You have worked soo hard to get there! And to the ones that are engaged im proud of you guys as well, you knew you had things to work on and were willing to take a step back to be able to move forward. And to those who r not together, hopefully this season will get you ready what is waiting for u in the future. Im now a widow single mother of 2 i know when i see people working on them selfs. I LOVE THIS SHOW! Hope to see update on everyone one day!

  31. Amanda Hampton says:

    Hello Steve and JoAnn. I love watching your show. I’ve avidly watched from season two through couples. I was wondering why not do a married couple boot camp? My husband and I are always on two different pages from finances to our daughter even down to work. I love him so much, but I get to my breaking point way too easily as does he. Maybe if you did a show about married couples I could learn a little bit more, and so could he.

  32. Victoria says:

    I completely agree. I am in a relationship with a lot of family troubles but I love my boyfriend SO MUCH!! My mom doesn’t like my boyfriend because of his past with lying. I dont want my mom to tear us apart. Its definatly a problem for us. He has lied to me for months. However, now that we are finally going strong my mom is our problem. :( We never missed an episode of tough love couple. Hoping there would be someone there like us! YOU DONT KNOW HOW BAD I WANNA BE ON THE SHOW! please at least find a couple like us so we can relate and hopefully fix our relationship!

  33. Jeanette says:

    When will we know update on the couples?

  34. Diana says:

    Heya ^^

    So, here’s the deal… I’m an portuguese girl who’s been just recently seeing your show on MTV, and I got realy interested in your guys work… It is amasing how fast you can read somebody mind and body espressions… So, I wanted to know what made you, Steve, follow this career, instead of any other career I’m sure you could have followed… I appoligise if there’s any mispellings in my writting, but I’m not realy used to write in english, I’m way better with the talking… Thank you for your time, and I hope you find a little bit of time and patience to answer me… Thank you, Steve and JoAnn

  35. Charlene says:

    Steve I hope to see another show. I loved watching all the tough love episodes and how you didn’t beat around the bush or try to sugar-coat anything. That was the first VH1 show I can say I honestly watched and/or recorded if I had to work so I didn’t miss it! Hope you do another show. Can’t Wait!

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