Let’s start there with the fact that you say everybody embraced the therapy — Ghostface Killah definitely did not start out embracing this process.
Now, I think a lot of people come in because they’ve seen the show and they realize we do real therapy and it’s very authentic, and they’re on board and ready to do therapy. Taylor Armstrong is a great example of that. She came in ready to get in the trenches. Ghostface was skeptical about therapy and unsure what it would mean and what it would be like. A lot of times when I work with rappers they’re less experienced in therapy, they’re not a group that grows up with a lot of therapy and they don’t know what to expect.
Does the fact that, for example, DMX had been on and worked with you give the show some credibility to him in that respect?
Yes, I think it does, Ghost knew that DMX and Too Short and Flavor Flav had been on, but I don’t think he had seen all the previous seasons.
Kelsey describes their relationship as having “magic,” but as she says that, his body language almost says the opposite, he’s not feeling that. What was your first impression of their relationship?
There were things that were red flags and showed that they were not in the same place at the same time regarding this relationship. That was something that needed to be looked into…and it is, very much so, you saw it in the super trailer.