My heart goes out to those in this program. I am a 51 year woman who sees a beautiful soul in them, and for some reason Amber has become my favorite. I don’t understand where in the process Kari Ann and James are at now, but hopefully it will come to light as the weeks go by. They are extremely brave people. and I truly hope they all recover and become whole. My 17 year old and I watch and talk about the program. The last couple of years we watched Dr. Drew’s show and Sober House. Thank you for caring for others. I hope they realize there are people who do care about them even though they might not know them.
I have trouble sleeping so i usually put what I call “mindless ” stuff on so I can fall asleep and this episode tugged at me and I found myself sobbing watching jennifer and amber with their pain . I can share such empathy with them, I find Amber to be such a wonderful kind spirit and I think that is why people care so much for her , her heart is in the right place . Jennifer wants to get help and do the right thing and that makes me love her and want the best for her. I sound so silly like I know these women, I might not know them personally but I know their pain personally … I guess I should stop rambling
there is such a plethora of sexuality imbedded in our entire culture that it is no surprise that addicts appear in this guise. Same with booze. It is as though the diseased culture dresses up to please those that are not exactly choosing this behavior. Our culture and the behavior chooses them.
It is sad; I cannot imagine any of these people actually being “in recovery” after the show. It’s back to the real world that obsesses about sex and booze. That is not something that can be erased.
What can they do? Live underneath a rock. All this “work” and look out the window.
I am inclined to sympathize more with Kari Ann than Kendra. Maybe because I, though not an addict, am NOT a morning person. I find that ones who are, do not understand we non-larks.
I. for one, am much more interested in Kendra’s obsession with Kari Ann. To me it is a negative imposition upon the group. All of the gossip she perpetrates makes me much more sympathetic to Kari Ann and does nothing other than distract Kendra and all the gossip participants from focussing on their own issues recovery. I think that is the subconscious intent; to find a scapegoat.
Honestly, the blatant disrespect that spews from Kari Ann’s mouth makes me sick to my stomach. I would never DREAM of speaking to people the way she does and cannot begin to imagine what’s going on in her head when she pulls her shenanigans. It’s so frusterating to watch her behavior through a television, so goodness knows what it was like dealing with her in person.
From listening to Howard Stern I learned from Dr Drew that she got into an altercation with staff and all involved were asked to leave the show. It’s very easy to see how anyone could lose patience with her! When she was on Howard herself, she played the victim still and blamed everything on other people.
I’m disappointed that the person doing “art therapy” was a clinical psychologist. Art therapy is a new field that has been struggling to get recognition. This could have been a good opportunity for art therapy to get the word out about art therapy. It has so many benefits, when it’s done with professional trained in art therapy. I wonder if there was not one in the area or not willing to be on camera.
About Keri Anne, I think it’s a good idea to think about what it’s like to be in her head. I’m not saying to sympathize or to understand her. I’m saying to think about the thoughts a person like that has in their heads, in their emotions and what type of things are motivating behaviors like that.
IMO, her behaviors are annoying and they’re meant to be. They’re also meant to be a wall. It’s unfortunate that she’s not ready to be in therapy but seems like there’s an inkling that she might need help eventually.
A message for Amber -
Hi, I understand the psychological factors that got you to a place where you think you are unattractive (unloveable, unworthy), and yet you know people respond to your physical beauty. I hope you are accepting of your other gifts – of intelligence, articulation, and compassion – you seem to be. So I just want to offer a word of encouragement in your struggles and appreciation for the bravery you have already shown. You’ve heard I’m sure that courage is being afraid and doing it anyway? And, I find you to be a striking beauty! I am a straight woman (happily married, 2 children) who was a makeup artist for Chanel, Lancome, etc. at one time. You actually have noble, even regal, quality in your face and carriage that is not diminished by your melancholy. Think of Julie Christie, Saffron Burrows, Cate Blanchett, Ava Gardner, Connie Nielsen…. and you will see what I am getting at. I hope these words from a stranger are helpful – I wish you health and happiness!
I agree with Venus about having an actual Art Therapist do the “art therapy.” In fact, ethically art therapy should not be done with out one. An art therapist is trained specifically to use the art as a therapeutic process. Psychologists are great, but do not have the knowledge base of artistic media/medium and a whole host of other skills needed to properly conduct art therapy sessions. Please call it “art in therapy,” or “art as therapy” if you do not use actual Art Therapists.
this is in response to an episode i just watched on much more music, don’t know which one.
I think the colored lady is not compatible to that girl. it seems like having such a varied group of people on the show, especially the british fellow who is very well worded an collected make her look like a flake. she should be discharged and come in more prepared. not sure why she didnt. i am sure she has already been humiliated since the show is probly over in real time.
I dont think i its about drugs. things in her life are obstructing her recovery. i have been there i am 26 years old and i dont like to see the way shes being treated. although she is difficult it is a result of unfinished things and the way she is being handled
I don’t understand why the staff doesn’t tell Kendra to STOP already. She keeps talking about being attacked by KariAnn. Seems to me shes the one that started this whole beef by attacking her first in group. I didn’t at first care for KariAnn but she has now stopped being so ~~!^`^(#@&*+~_$%& y (so far) and never says anything to Kendra. She just gets up and walks away. Kendra is just mad that people are starting to like KariAnn. If it is not helping her therapy to be there then go home. KariAnn has now tried to get involved with group and others. Just not Kendra. Kendra comes off as a whining b—- who is trying to turn the whole house against one person and gets mad when it doesn’t work. Dr. Drew seems sometimes like hes afraid to say anything to them. Or maybe he was just speachless with some of KariAnns comments. LOL Still love you Dr. Drew
I really hope everyone in the group get their lives together. I believe they all are good people that have made bad decisions in their lives. I have to mention Kari ann, I believe she is their for publicity. I believe her manager told her to act like a a** to get camera time. I almost belive the things she said about her being rape and the other stuff is not 100% true. I really do not belive anything that comes out of her mouth. The thing that really stood out to me was when Kari was on the phone talking to her manager and he told her she needs to stay there for her career. I as so glad the pretty black woman call her out on her crap.
This show is the best show on TV! I was profoundly helped by Duncan’s issues while he talked to the psychiatrist. I too have been bonded to my trauma and have acted out at times to hurt my inner child all over again. This information was BRILLIANT! I love Duncan, and I wish we were best friends. I love his personality and his humor. I love Amber also and I am so thankful that she came on this show. I hope she forms a relationship with that rocker guy on the show who has a huge crush on her. The only thing I don’t like about this seasons show is all the idiot staff. That guy telling Duncan he didn’t understand his feelings because he’s not gay is an idiot. That black lady who pulled Kari Ann’s hair should be fired or should be working behind a desk.
We appreciate that Dr. Drew has brought this topic to the masses but the Reality needs to focus more on the REAL work that is done in session with Jill not just the super hyper client’s reactions. The world now needs to see what happens in a session not just the smoking and complaining after hours. If these clients were on site full time what went on that may not have been good TV drama but was really helpful therapy???
Bottom line: Keri Anne is wasting everyone’s time, including her own. With any addict, there has to be a certain level of desire to change when they enter a therapeutic environment, and her constant combative attitude proves that she isn’t ready to do what it takes to change.
One-on-one therapy would probably work much better for her. Dr. Drew already said her emotional growth is stunted because of the abuse she experienced, and it shows constantly in her adolescent behavior. I think she’s poison to everyone’s else progress. Get her out of there. If I want to see temper tantrums I’ll turn the channel to “Supernanny”.
Keri Anne is a manipulative psychotic 61t(h! She intentionally causes conflicts in the house. She constantly tests the boundaries of the rules in that house to see how far she can take before she gets a reaction. She does what she does without consequence. I can’t stand her a55. That 5h1t with her has been going on for weeks. If she had thrown something at me she would’ve had a scratch on her _#*)!`*%+*_&@^@ too.
Why are the patients on Sex Rehab and Celebrity Rehab allowed to have tobacco and/or caffiene addictions?
Drew answered that question in this interview:
http://blog.vh1.com/2008-11-27/examining-rehab-2-with-dr-drew-episode-6/
My heart goes out to those in this program. I am a 51 year woman who sees a beautiful soul in them, and for some reason Amber has become my favorite. I don’t understand where in the process Kari Ann and James are at now, but hopefully it will come to light as the weeks go by. They are extremely brave people. and I truly hope they all recover and become whole. My 17 year old and I watch and talk about the program. The last couple of years we watched Dr. Drew’s show and Sober House. Thank you for caring for others. I hope they realize there are people who do care about them even though they might not know them.
I have trouble sleeping so i usually put what I call “mindless ” stuff on so I can fall asleep and this episode tugged at me and I found myself sobbing watching jennifer and amber with their pain . I can share such empathy with them, I find Amber to be such a wonderful kind spirit and I think that is why people care so much for her , her heart is in the right place . Jennifer wants to get help and do the right thing and that makes me love her and want the best for her. I sound so silly like I know these women, I might not know them personally but I know their pain personally … I guess I should stop rambling
there is such a plethora of sexuality imbedded in our entire culture that it is no surprise that addicts appear in this guise. Same with booze. It is as though the diseased culture dresses up to please those that are not exactly choosing this behavior. Our culture and the behavior chooses them.
It is sad; I cannot imagine any of these people actually being “in recovery” after the show. It’s back to the real world that obsesses about sex and booze. That is not something that can be erased.
What can they do? Live underneath a rock. All this “work” and look out the window.
I am inclined to sympathize more with Kari Ann than Kendra. Maybe because I, though not an addict, am NOT a morning person. I find that ones who are, do not understand we non-larks.
I. for one, am much more interested in Kendra’s obsession with Kari Ann. To me it is a negative imposition upon the group. All of the gossip she perpetrates makes me much more sympathetic to Kari Ann and does nothing other than distract Kendra and all the gossip participants from focussing on their own issues recovery. I think that is the subconscious intent; to find a scapegoat.
Honestly, the blatant disrespect that spews from Kari Ann’s mouth makes me sick to my stomach. I would never DREAM of speaking to people the way she does and cannot begin to imagine what’s going on in her head when she pulls her shenanigans. It’s so frusterating to watch her behavior through a television, so goodness knows what it was like dealing with her in person.
From listening to Howard Stern I learned from Dr Drew that she got into an altercation with staff and all involved were asked to leave the show. It’s very easy to see how anyone could lose patience with her! When she was on Howard herself, she played the victim still and blamed everything on other people.
This girl is a lost cause and needs to grow up!
I’m disappointed that the person doing “art therapy” was a clinical psychologist. Art therapy is a new field that has been struggling to get recognition. This could have been a good opportunity for art therapy to get the word out about art therapy. It has so many benefits, when it’s done with professional trained in art therapy. I wonder if there was not one in the area or not willing to be on camera.
About Keri Anne, I think it’s a good idea to think about what it’s like to be in her head. I’m not saying to sympathize or to understand her. I’m saying to think about the thoughts a person like that has in their heads, in their emotions and what type of things are motivating behaviors like that.
IMO, her behaviors are annoying and they’re meant to be. They’re also meant to be a wall. It’s unfortunate that she’s not ready to be in therapy but seems like there’s an inkling that she might need help eventually.
A message for Amber -
Hi, I understand the psychological factors that got you to a place where you think you are unattractive (unloveable, unworthy), and yet you know people respond to your physical beauty. I hope you are accepting of your other gifts – of intelligence, articulation, and compassion – you seem to be. So I just want to offer a word of encouragement in your struggles and appreciation for the bravery you have already shown. You’ve heard I’m sure that courage is being afraid and doing it anyway? And, I find you to be a striking beauty! I am a straight woman (happily married, 2 children) who was a makeup artist for Chanel, Lancome, etc. at one time. You actually have noble, even regal, quality in your face and carriage that is not diminished by your melancholy. Think of Julie Christie, Saffron Burrows, Cate Blanchett, Ava Gardner, Connie Nielsen…. and you will see what I am getting at. I hope these words from a stranger are helpful – I wish you health and happiness!
I agree with Venus about having an actual Art Therapist do the “art therapy.” In fact, ethically art therapy should not be done with out one. An art therapist is trained specifically to use the art as a therapeutic process. Psychologists are great, but do not have the knowledge base of artistic media/medium and a whole host of other skills needed to properly conduct art therapy sessions. Please call it “art in therapy,” or “art as therapy” if you do not use actual Art Therapists.
this is in response to an episode i just watched on much more music, don’t know which one.
I think the colored lady is not compatible to that girl. it seems like having such a varied group of people on the show, especially the british fellow who is very well worded an collected make her look like a flake. she should be discharged and come in more prepared. not sure why she didnt. i am sure she has already been humiliated since the show is probly over in real time.
I dont think i its about drugs. things in her life are obstructing her recovery. i have been there i am 26 years old and i dont like to see the way shes being treated. although she is difficult it is a result of unfinished things and the way she is being handled
I don’t understand why the staff doesn’t tell Kendra to STOP already. She keeps talking about being attacked by KariAnn. Seems to me shes the one that started this whole beef by attacking her first in group. I didn’t at first care for KariAnn but she has now stopped being so ~~!^`^(#@&*+~_$%& y (so far) and never says anything to Kendra. She just gets up and walks away. Kendra is just mad that people are starting to like KariAnn. If it is not helping her therapy to be there then go home. KariAnn has now tried to get involved with group and others. Just not Kendra. Kendra comes off as a whining b—- who is trying to turn the whole house against one person and gets mad when it doesn’t work. Dr. Drew seems sometimes like hes afraid to say anything to them. Or maybe he was just speachless with some of KariAnns comments. LOL Still love you Dr. Drew
I really hope everyone in the group get their lives together. I believe they all are good people that have made bad decisions in their lives. I have to mention Kari ann, I believe she is their for publicity. I believe her manager told her to act like a a** to get camera time. I almost belive the things she said about her being rape and the other stuff is not 100% true. I really do not belive anything that comes out of her mouth. The thing that really stood out to me was when Kari was on the phone talking to her manager and he told her she needs to stay there for her career. I as so glad the pretty black woman call her out on her crap.
This show is the best show on TV! I was profoundly helped by Duncan’s issues while he talked to the psychiatrist. I too have been bonded to my trauma and have acted out at times to hurt my inner child all over again. This information was BRILLIANT! I love Duncan, and I wish we were best friends. I love his personality and his humor. I love Amber also and I am so thankful that she came on this show. I hope she forms a relationship with that rocker guy on the show who has a huge crush on her. The only thing I don’t like about this seasons show is all the idiot staff. That guy telling Duncan he didn’t understand his feelings because he’s not gay is an idiot. That black lady who pulled Kari Ann’s hair should be fired or should be working behind a desk.
Why are they in white suits with googles?
We appreciate that Dr. Drew has brought this topic to the masses but the Reality needs to focus more on the REAL work that is done in session with Jill not just the super hyper client’s reactions. The world now needs to see what happens in a session not just the smoking and complaining after hours. If these clients were on site full time what went on that may not have been good TV drama but was really helpful therapy???
Bottom line: Keri Anne is wasting everyone’s time, including her own. With any addict, there has to be a certain level of desire to change when they enter a therapeutic environment, and her constant combative attitude proves that she isn’t ready to do what it takes to change.
One-on-one therapy would probably work much better for her. Dr. Drew already said her emotional growth is stunted because of the abuse she experienced, and it shows constantly in her adolescent behavior. I think she’s poison to everyone’s else progress. Get her out of there. If I want to see temper tantrums I’ll turn the channel to “Supernanny”.
Keri Anne is a manipulative psychotic 61t(h! She intentionally causes conflicts in the house. She constantly tests the boundaries of the rules in that house to see how far she can take before she gets a reaction. She does what she does without consequence. I can’t stand her a55. That 5h1t with her has been going on for weeks. If she had thrown something at me she would’ve had a scratch on her _#*)!`*%+*_&@^@ too.